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Re: Final Fantasy 13 Fastest Selling in Franchise History
Old 03-20-2010, 02:01 PM   #1
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I think this game is really, really great.
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Re: Final Fantasy 13 Fastest Selling in Franchise History
Old 03-20-2010, 03:19 PM   #2
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I think this game is really, really great.
I found it to be short and boring. I was fairly excited for what I would find in the end game section, and was fairly disappointed to find nothing.

No ultima weapon, no omega weapon.

Trust that I understand they spent a lot of time on the crystal engine, and the game is very beautiful.

I found the majority of the characters to be dull, and the good characters happened to not be the main characters.

Sazh and Snow were highly likable, but basically their part was over by chapter 9.

Unfortunate.
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Re: Final Fantasy 13 Fastest Selling in Franchise History
Old 03-20-2010, 03:24 PM   #3
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To each his own.
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Re: Final Fantasy 13 Fastest Selling in Franchise History
Old 03-20-2010, 03:39 PM   #4
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I still don't get how you call 40-ish hours short, I mean how long do you want the game to be?
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Old 03-20-2010, 03:54 PM   #5
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I still don't get how you call 40-ish hours short, I mean how long do you want the game to be?
And technically, if you want to complete everything, it's much longer than that.
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Old 03-20-2010, 04:00 PM   #6
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And technically, if you want to complete everything, it's much longer than that.
Which he is, I think he mentioned last night, he was around 60-ish hours in or so.

I don't know on what scale that is considered short, he must hate those 10 hour games.
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Old 03-20-2010, 04:07 PM   #7
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Which he is, I think he mentioned last night, he was around 60-ish hours in or so.

I don't know on what scale that is considered short, he must hate those 10 hour games.
I think the length of games depends on the genre to be honest with you. Look at the God of War series for example. You can't spend 15-20 hours just hacking and slashing your way through everything. It gets tiresome and it's hard to keep a good pacing.

Most RPGs are very time consuming and technically a short RPG would be probably about 15-20 hours (which I find usually occurs on most handheld RPGs, save the Final Fantasy ones). 35-40 for the main quest sounds about decent.
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Old 03-20-2010, 06:24 PM   #8
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Which he is, I think he mentioned last night, he was around 60-ish hours in or so.

I don't know on what scale that is considered short, he must hate those 10 hour games.

1st off Earl, I could have beaten the main game the first time through in under 30 hours. At chapter 11 I decided to grind, which was definitely not needed, as the game gives you the perfect amount of enemies to max out your crystal grid by the next boss that expands it.

I spent around 5 hours in chapter 9 grinding enemies for credit chips and Incentive chips to get money and upgrade my weapons to 2nd tier.

I spent another 7 hours or so doing missions and gaining cp in chapter 11.Which I now feel upset about as I found out after I beat the game that the only thing left to do is those missions.

I didn't need to do any of this in order to complete the game, In fact ryan bill finished in 31 hours because he didn't level up weapons or grind for levels. And I do believe I was really wrong about 60 hours. Probably only going to take around 53 hours to complete this game and that means do everything. Around that time in any other FF game since 7, you might have beaten the story part, maybe. There's no way in hell you were anywhere close to doing the end game stuff. Maxing characters, secret bosses, ultimate weapons. Hell you probably were going to spend a good 100 hours at least and you probably still weren't close to doing everything. In 13, it should in no way take more than 65 hours for anyone, even someone who had never played an RPG before, to completely destroy the game, main story, maxed characters and all missions complete.

There were no towns, 1 sidequest (takes maybe 5 minutes) and 1 other side-part to the game that requires you to kill monsters that's it.

I'm sorry but 60 hours to do everything in a final fantasy game is just silly. They completely cut out everything that brought joy to a final fantasy game over the past 12 games. It streamlines you head on into a game that is not even standard FF fare except for the graphics. The music was basically terrible, hamauzu was like "let's put shitty vocals in everything, including chocobo song" the only time I enjoyed the music was when the battle theme was acceptable.

The battle system would have been pretty good if they didn't spend the first 12 hours of the game explaining how it worked when it really wasn't that complex. I mean the game finally picked up a bit after you could choose your own characters around hour 20, but by then the game was almost done. There was absolutely no exploration whatsoever, there were no dungeons, no puzzles nothing in this game was final fantasy.

I thought the CP grid was pretty well done as everyone had their own thing, and when everyone can finally cross over into other grids there are characters who just wont learn things, like snow can never have haste.

The story was ok, except seriously it had been 90% done before in Final Fantasy 10 except with a few changes. Seriously. At the end of the game my jaw dropped and I was like "Shameless, this is just shameless"

Look I'm not saying I didn't enjoy it. Like I said before "A decent RPG, but a Shitty final fantasy"

Like this is just not what I waited many years for. Not even close. I just can't see how anyone who has played a final fantasy game before doesn't feel very cheated by this game.
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