No one really voted on the MSNBC poll citing that they don't watch it enough to tell... yet there are a decent amount of votes on the FoxNews poll and almost all are for the negative option. So do we have a large group of dedicated FoxNews viewers, who have a predominantly negative view of the channel, in Gametavern? Really?
Or are some of us just going along for the ride...
I had a roommate a couple of semesters ago who had it on every morning/evening.
I would like to mention, though, that my local Fox News channel is very unbiased.
Local news is local news. Being in Philadelphia, though, we feed anchors over to the cable news channel and I've seen objective local anchors turn into conservative pundits overnight once they go national.
No one really voted on the MSNBC poll citing that they don't watch it enough to tell... yet there are a decent amount of votes on the FoxNews poll and almost all are for the negative option. So do we have a large group of dedicated FoxNews viewers, who have a predominantly negative view of the channel, in Gametavern? Really?
I think you're looking too much into it.
I don't watch Fox News, yet I know that it is biased towards the conservative side - heavily biased.
Yet I know very little about MSNBC, largely because nobody complains regularly about its motives and blatant biased reports.
I'd assume its much of the same. People who voted against don't watch it, they just don't like it.
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So do we have a large group of dedicated FoxNews viewers, who have a predominantly negative view of the channel, in Gametavern? Really?
Haha, the poll didn't asked if they are "dedicated FoXNews viewers", it just asked if Fox has a bias. Fox and MSNBC aren't the only news outlets.
I think youtube is riddled with clips from Fox News since they're opinion shows get so crazy, and go against what most of america believes, and their news shows are so painfully bias that its funny to look at. While MSNBC is a real news outlet and it's not interesting enough to mock on youtube as much.
I guess they're the outlet people love to hate.
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Haha, the poll didn't asked if they are "dedicated FoXNews viewers", it just asked if Fox has a bias. Fox and MSNBC aren't the only news outlets.
Game, if you had included the sentence previous to the one you quoted you would see the reason for my question. Please don;t take my comments out of context. (and I say this with full knwoledge you'll likely ramble on in response with some reason why the context wasn't important or that sentence added nothing)
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I think youtube is riddled with clips from Fox News since they're opinion shows get so crazy, and go against what most of america believes, and their news shows are so painfully bias that its funny to look at. While MSNBC is a real news outlet and it's not interesting enough to mock on youtube as much.
I guess they're the outlet people love to hate.
It could also be that people who post the ones you've seen share the same doublestandard when it comes the right and left news reporting. And if most of America is soooo against conservative values, why does Fox continually destroy MSNBC in the ratings? Do only conservatives watch cable news? I think your assumptions are a bit unrealistic...
Additonally, I can easily find examples of crazy MSNBC youtube clips showing "craziness" on their opinion shows, just watch any Olberman rant. I gues it's a matter of perspective as to what "crazy" is, but bias can be measured and isn't subject to subjectivity.
I'll agree with Vamp on this one, Fox news if obviously geared toward republicans, but their primetime lineup no so much, I mean Family Guy is pretty liberal...
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Additonally, I can easily find examples of crazy MSNBC youtube clips showing "craziness" on their opinion shows, just watch any Olberman rant. I gues it's a matter of perspective as to what "crazy" is, but bias can be measured and isn't subject to subjectivity.
I'm sure you can find plenty of crazy clips on their opinion shows, however you're not going to find as much obviously slanted news clips as Fox. Like the one I posted. A fox reporter sees no hands raised for Mccain (Well, except his own), and everyone's hand raised for Obama.. and that looks like an even split to him... well "a little heavier towards Obama".
While MSNBC reporter would have just said what it was... a room that's full of Obama supporters.
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Game, if you had included the sentence previous to the one you quoted you would see the reason for my question. Please don;t take my comments out of context. (and I say this with full knwoledge you'll likely ramble on in response with some reason why the context wasn't important or that sentence added nothing)
My reply wasn't out of context, unless I misunderstood your point. I was just pointing out that you don't have to be a veiwer of Fox news to have a negative opinion about it because they're constantly mocked through other sources, mainly youtube.
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Haha, still waiting for Prof to post some fake news from MSNBC.
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I didn't post any because I didn't look for any, nor will I (I caved in, see the edit below). It's irrelevant to the core of the discussion. The argument has never been a pissing contest between who is more biased as they are both VERY biased... it's about the recognition of bias, which no one seems to want to do when it comes to MSNBC, or they do so reluctantly, but they immediately jump on FoxNews as if they invented and are the sole proprietor of bias. It's about hipocrisy, not which violator violated more than the other.
And in an argument involving bias, I find sourcing The Daily Show for evidence to be hilariously ironic.
EDIT: Out of curiosity I googled "msnbc lies" and found a few items, but once again, it's off topic. I'd recommend it for anyone who is reading this thread with an open mind and is interested in comparing bias. To me comparing the level of bias of FoxNews and MSNBC is like comparing the level of genocide of Hitler and Stalin. The answer is meaningless due to the severity of crimes on both sides.
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Aww I wanted you to do it for entertainment value. As Mr. Colbert said.. reality has a well known liberal bias. So its hard for real news not to sound bias!
By the way, lets not attack the messangers, and attack the message. Who cares if Jon Stewart noticed the flaw in their reporting. If any other reporter, comedian, or drunk person caught it, it would not change the underlying facts. And these are not opinions that are being slanted, they're lying and presenting these things as facts.
I have a lot more examples of Fox being biased on their 'news' in my bag. I don't even think MSNBC compares.
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I was just pointing out that you don't have to be a veiwer of Fox news to have a negative opinion about it because they're constantly mocked through other sources, mainly youtube.
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