2009 Nobel Peace Prize

Professor S · 10-09-2009, 02:34 PM

They already gave it to Al Gore, so that bridge was crossed a long time ago.

But on a serious note, what exactly did they give it to him for? Good intentions? He's been talking to a lot of people, but quite honestly I don't see any accomplishments when it comes to world peace. Perhaps he'll deserve this one day day, but now?

The Germanator · 10-09-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor S

They already gave it to Al Gore, so that bridge was crossed a long time ago.

But on a serious note, what exactly did they give it to him for? Good intentions? He's been talking to a lot of people, but quite honestly I don't see any accomplishments when it comes to world peace. Perhaps he'll deserve this one day day, but now?

I'm generally supportive of Obama and I totally agree. I mean, what has he really done to deserve this other than talk about how he wants to do it? I'd like to think we will get to a point where he deserved this award and I have confidence in that, but he hasn't shown anything at this point in time.

Vampyr · 10-09-2009, 03:39 PM

I think we should keep in mind being supportive of Obama isn't the same thing as supporting this award - he didn't technically ask for it.

But in terms of actual achievements they did name one: they believe he has changed the face of international diplomacy.

As much as American's like or dislike Obama, I believe the rest of the world, for the most part, really loves him.

Vampyr · 10-09-2009, 03:42 PM

Another interesting thing to consider: The deadline for nominations for the 2009 Nobel Peace prize was February 1st. Obama had only been in office 9 days.

So by that logic, he actually received the award based primarily on things he had done before becoming president.

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Isn't the nobel prize meant to acknowledge a lifetime / body of work, not intentions? I will have to investigate this further.

Depends on the Nobel prize you're talking about. That's actually one of the more controversial aspects of the peace prize...it is often given out for immediate accomplishments rather than decades after said accomplishments, like the other Nobel prizes. Personally I think that's a good thing, since it exemplifies the type of people we need leading the world towards peace right now, rather than 30 years after the fact.

Although it's going to be a bit awkward if Obama starts dropping bombs on Afghanistan.

KillerGremlin · 10-09-2009, 04:05 PM

This is just the world's way of saying, "Thanks for getting rid of Bush."

TheGame · 10-09-2009, 04:15 PM

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This is just the world's way of saying, "Thanks for getting rid of Bush."

Haha, that's what I think.. pretty much. And thanks for ending the streak of dirty, misleading, and hateful politics winning out in this age.

Professor S · 10-12-2009, 12:36 PM

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This is just the world's way of saying, "Thanks for getting rid of Bush."

Well then he'd still not be worthy of the award. Term limits got rid of Bush. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Vampyr · 10-12-2009, 02:33 PM

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Well then he'd still not be worthy of the award. Term limits got rid of Bush. Obama had nothing to do with it.

Then maybe it's more like, "thanks for not being Bush".

KillerGremlin · 10-12-2009, 03:11 PM

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Well then he'd still not be worthy of the award. Term limits got rid of Bush. Obama had nothing to do with it.

I agree. I was just joking of course. And then SNL stole my joke this week in their opening skit.

I need to start trademarking my shit so I can sell it to the unfunny a-holes at SNL.

TheGame · 10-09-2009, 04:18 PM

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But in terms of actual achievements they did name one: they believe he has changed the face of international diplomacy.

This is actually a very good point too. America has changed from the 'don't talk with our enemies until they agree to what we want' policy we've had over the last decade or so.

Bond · 10-09-2009, 05:13 PM

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I'm generally supportive of Obama and I totally agree. I mean, what has he really done to deserve this other than talk about how he wants to do it? I'd like to think we will get to a point where he deserved this award and I have confidence in that, but he hasn't shown anything at this point in time.

I completely agree with this, and Bube's post.

Typhoid · 10-09-2009, 06:23 PM

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But on a serious note, what exactly did they give it to him for? Good intentions? He's been talking to a lot of people, but quite honestly I don't see any accomplishments when it comes to world peace. Perhaps he'll deserve this one day day, but now?

Agreed.

This sort of cheapens the effect of a nobel prize. It's a big accomplishment. You have to spend the majority of your life dedicated to something that benefits others in some immense way. He's just a black president who followed Bush. Doesn't deserve it, in my opinion.