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Old 09-07-2009, 10:52 PM   #1
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"HOLY FUCK.... STAY IN SCHOOL? LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS? THIS IS DICTATOR TALK!!!!"
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:06 AM   #2
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That was a really good speech.
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:16 AM   #3
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That was a really good speech.
From all accounts I'm sure it was... but then again the objections to the speech were never really with the speech itself, but everything surrounding it.

Once again, this was not that big of a deal, but I'm glad that they made the changes that they did regarding the essay and such. Hopefully it will keep a lot of these "Obama's a NAZI" overreactions to a minimum and people can return to arguments based on real policy.

EDIT: KG, thanks for posting it. It was a very good speech indeed.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:51 AM   #4
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We can just stop talking about Bush. He's irrelevant now, and was not a good example for you to use. And with that, I'll reply to your point again.

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IF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S AND THE DEMS DIFFICULTIES ARE WITH THEIR PROGRESSIVE BASE, WHY WOULDN'T THEY PUSH THROUGH A PROGRESSIVE AGENDA?
Because he wants to hold onto the center.

Shocking answer huh?

I don't disagree with you when you say the center is important. I disagree when you say that the center is the main cause the drop in his approval rating.

The reason he won't push through a progressive agenda, on the healthcare front, is because democrats won't sign onto it. Democrats won't sign onto it because they get paid by the healthcare insurers.

People in the Center see that Obama is not forcing anything, and is open to discussion about healthcare reform. That's what wins over center votes, being open minded and using caution before making any major changes (even with having a majority that can't be stopped). People on the left, however, have a reason to be upset about Obama not being strong and pushing things through, which is why on those polls he was greeted with a negative reaction by them.

The reason Obama is staying consistant, and staying open to ideas from the conservatives (Even if you think its just an illusion).. Is because he still has support from the center when he works in this fashon. Just because he's losing progressive support when it comes to his approval rating, doesn't mean that they're going to suddenly vote for someone else.

That's why I say the actual elections will be what matters most. If the centrists are really put off by Obama, then its going to hurt the whole party and he's not going to have much of a chance of winning. If the left is put off by Obama, then its not going to affect things much.
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Old 09-08-2009, 12:12 PM   #5
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Because he wants to hold onto the center.
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