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Re: "No Gods or Kings" revisited
Old 05-04-2009, 10:40 AM   #1
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Spoilers!

I'm probably 75% through, and I just got past the humongo plot twist. (The fact that there was a plot twist was spoiled for me, though I did see the inevitable one coming.) So far I really love the game. And having a girlfriend who lovingly demands my time has forced me to slowly play the game, which has let much of the plot sink in instead of rushing by. For example, the fact that Andrew Ryan mind-controls you into killing him and getting as far as you did in the first place -- why? When he could have stopped you at anytime himself with the same mind-control? Is that because he truly did love you, being his son, and wanted you to be free of the "slave's" bond? Probably the most thought-provoking question I've experienced in a video game. And it's not even over yet.
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Re: "No Gods or Kings" revisited
Old 05-04-2009, 11:07 AM   #2
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Default Re: "No Gods or Kings" revisited

*Spoilers, but honestly at this point, if you don't know already you have to expect them*























Andrew Ryan doesn't mind-control you into killing him. Fontaine is the one who implanted the suggestion in you, and asked "will you kindly" kill Ryan. The reason Rapture is in such a state is due to a civil war brought on by Fontaine and his inluence over the mentally damaged populace addicted to splicing. He wanted Ryan dead, and Ryan wanted Fontaine dead and you'e in the middle of it all.

Andrew Ryan was asking you/the protagonist to overcome the mind control by repeatedly stating "A slave obeys, a man chooses!" Ryan's belief in the individual was so great he believed you would overcome Fontaine's unconscious suggestion, and he was willing to give his life for his principles.





















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