GameTavern PokeTournament!

[Frankenstan]

We could also draft based on the already predetermined tiers that are already available on smogon, which is where I have got most of my information involving tournament rules so far. If we drafted so that everyone got two from the highest tier, two from the middle and 6 from the lower tier, we could assure that everyone has an equal number of equally useful pokemon. This would not take dylflon too long to pull a draft from either as the lists already exist.

I'd suggest something like this simply due to the fact that the other drafting methods may lead to a lack of balance, for example: theslymoogle's draft compared to say Rock Adams or BLueFires, who probably have the strongest lists so far.

If anyone else likes this idea for the draft then help expand on it, since we still need to know how many from each list etc. that everyone thinks is best.

Edit - Also anyone whose list already conforms to the decided amounts from each list won't have to be redrafted. Dylflon's draft for instance has two from the highest tier (Dusknoir and Gallade), two from the middle (Swellow and Ninetails) and 6 from the lowest. This would also help save some more time compared to having to redraft everyone.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Frankenstan

We could also draft based on the already predetermined tiers that are already available on smogon, which is where I have got most of my information involving tournament rules so far. If we drafted so that everyone got two from the highest tier, two from the middle and 6 from the lower tier, we could assure that everyone has an equal number of equally useful pokemon. This would not take dylflon too long to pull a draft from either as the lists already exist.

I'd suggest something like this simply due to the fact that the other drafting methods may lead to a lack of balance, for example: theslymoogle's draft compared to say Rock Adams or BLueFires, who probably have the strongest lists so far.

If anyone else likes this idea for the draft then help expand on it, since we still need to know how many from each list etc. that everyone thinks is best.

Edit - Also anyone whose list already conforms to the decided amounts from each list won't have to be redrafted. Dylflon's draft for instance has two from the highest tier (Dusknoir and Gallade), two from the middle (Swellow and Ninetails) and 6 from the lowest. This would also help save some more time compared to having to redraft everyone.

Andrew, if you don't mind, you could find out what tier each persons mons are from, and then if their list works out then we won't redraft for them and just use the 6 that conform to a fair system.

But say they have too many top tiers (like Rock for instance), they have to pick two of them and throw the others out. If anyone is lacking mons from any tier, then we'll redraft those.


Or we can just redraft with those tiers in mind, draft 9 pokemon (3 from each tier) and take the banned ones out.

Let's get a public opinion on this.

[Typhoid]

PS Why didn't the gagger just re-use his Fission Mailed account?

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

PS Why didn't the gagger just re-use his Fission Mailed account?

We couldn't remember what his old account was! It's so obvious now.

[Frankenstan]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Andrew, if you don't mind, you could find out what tier each persons mons are from, and then if their list works out then we won't redraft for them and just use the 6 that conform to a fair system.

But say they have too many top tiers (like Rock for instance), they have to pick two of them and throw the others out. If anyone is lacking mons from any tier, then we'll redraft those.


Or we can just redraft with those tiers in mind, draft 9 pokemon (3 from each tier) and take the banned ones out.

Let's get a public opinion on this.

Either way works fine with me really, i'm only really interested in finding a method that everyone agrees with that allows for some decent balance. The specific reason for the 2-2-6 thing was that it requires people to use all 3 tiers rather then 3 of each which allows people to ignore the bottom tier entirely, which is not what I would like to see. Here is the list of how everyone's draft looks.

Dylflon
High-2 (Dusknoir and Gallade)
Medium-2 (Swellow and Ninetails)
Low-6

Typhoid
High-0,
Medium-3 (Typhlosion, Yanmega, Nidoqueen)
Low-7

Frankenstan
High-2 (Togekiss, Machamp)
Medium-1 (Clefable)
Low-7

Rock Adam
High-3 (Empoleon, Scizor, Magnezone)
Medium-1 (Magmortar)
Low -6

Vampyr
High-1 (Gyarados)
Medium-3 (Clefable, Ninetails, Crobat)
Low-6

Combine 017
High-4 (Dugtrio, Magnezone, Vaporeon, Porygon-Z)
Medium-2 (Sceptile,Rotom)
Low-4

BreakABone
High-3 (Dusknoir, Mamoswine, Gengar)
Medium-1 (Claydol)
Low-6

Swan
High-3 (Vaporeon, Abomasnow, Bronzong)
Medium-2 (Weezing, Houndoom)
Low-5

BLueFire
High-4 (Gliscor, Froslass, Porygon-Z, Machamp)
Medium-2 (Omastar, Mismagius)
Low-4

TheSlyMoogle
High-1 (Rhyperior)
Medium-0
Low-9

Fox 6
High-0
Medium-3 (Claydol, Feraligatr, Ninetails)
Low-7

Suprisingly, most lists are relatively close to 2-2-6 with only a few adjustments needed. Sorry about the length of the list, but it is useful to show how some people like Theslymoogle and Fox 6 have lists that are quite bad while Combine 017 and BLueFire have very good lists.

[Dylflon]

So the tiers break down into Overused Underused and Never Used. I find tihs both itneresting and helpful.

I think 2-2-6 is also a good way to draft this thing out. It means pretty much everyone will have 4 good Pokemon on their teams and 2 average ones to round it out. I'll start making people's roster adjustments this evening.

If anyone wants to add any input about how they think we should break the teams down on a tier based level, I'm all ears. Sorry about the confusion everyone. We'll get this down and hopefully everyone will be happy.

I guess we'll start knocking things off that are on SlyMoogle's ban list too. (Sorry about your Togekiss, Andrew)

[Fox 6]

Drop Claydol, beautfly, aridos, and persian

[Vampyr]

Drop crobat.

never really liked that pokemon.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Ok.

Can I get my redraft soon prz?

Also I need people to PM me with what pokemans you do not have and need to acquire.

Basically I'll be in Chicago tomorrow night until Thursday and during the daytime I'll probably have nothing to do so I need to know what mons I'm getting for everyone and also need to get crazy with my own mons. Something to do. Either this or I'll end up playing some shitty MMORPG that is free to play.

[Dylflon]

I'll try to get this going tomorrow. Sorry for being tardy, John.

[Ryubackflip]

I signed up on the forums just for this tournament! I hope its not too late to register.

[Dylflon]

You'll get your mons tomorrow when I fix everyone else's lists.

Sorry, I won't be able to do it tonight, John!

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Fox 6

Drop Claydol, beautfly, aridos, and persian

That's one pokemon too many.

[Fox 6]

Claydol and the 2 bugs then