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03-08-2009, 06:02 PM
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I think me and Combine are going to see it next weekend in IMAX.
I remember when I saw Dark Knight in IMAX and it did the laser show. All I could think was that IMAX is an arrogant dick
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03-08-2009, 07:44 PM
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So good!
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03-09-2009, 08:53 AM
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I've watched it and digested it. Here are a few notes:
1) Music - Yes, it was distractibg at times (Sound of Silence, 99 Luftballoons), but after thinking about it I thought most of it was appropiate. I will agree that the Jeff Buckley should have been used, but then again Shrek kind of stole that thunder, but the Hallelujah wasn't abnout sex... the sex wasn't about sex... it was about them finding their calling again.
Boogieman, Watchtower were especially well chosen, IMO. The score was not especially good, apart from the Manhattan sequence, but not distracting.
2) Aside from Malin Ackerman (she was kind of just "there" I thought the performances were very good - excellent. Jackie Earle Haley (I CALLED IT) stole the damn movie. He IS Rorschach. Morgan was also a standout as The Comedian, and that character was even more effective on screen. He was more dispicable and yet more relatable at the same time.
And I liked Patrick Wilson's version of Night Owl better than Moore's version, because the movie version seemed to be a man searching for his lost manhood rather than in the book where I wondered how he ever was a hero in the first place.
EDIT: Can't forget Billy Crudup as Dr. Manhattan. I will be the first to say I was wrong about there being no effects on his voice. The character needed that human element and Crudup played a man so detached but regretful of the detachment that it was a little painful.
3) Apart from the ending, which seemed rushed, I thought the movie was incredibly well edited and directed. The cemetery flashbacks and Manhattan scenes especially. Also, the inevitable comparisons to DK will comes, and one area where I will ay Snyder has it all over Nolan is fight scenes. Snyder knows how to block a fight scene and it was nice to see somewhat extended shots make it into the Bourne era cut/violence/cut/violence style. And no, the slo-mo wasn't distracting at all, and I found most of it appropriate and effective.
In the end, I'm eager to see the extended version as I think I lot of questions will be answered and hopefully the rushed ending will be fleshed out a bit more.
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03-09-2009, 04:42 PM
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I forgot there'd be an extended version.
I think that will be the first blu-ray i ever buy.
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03-10-2009, 06:42 PM
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Reading the IGN review reminded me of something I thought about during the end of the movie, but completely forgot after which may make it a moot point, but still.
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On the surface level, making Doctor Manhattan the scapegoat sounds like a great alternative... until you realize that there is simply no way the countries of the world are going to set aside their differences and join hands in peace after America's ultimate super-weapon -- which he has been touted as for the whole film -- is to blame for the deaths of millions. The U.S. and U.S.S.R. are at the very brink of war, remember. Complete and total nuclear annihilation is at hand, with the rest of the world wondering if America might use the blue-skinned ace it has up its sleeve (as it did to win in Vietnam)
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Mimicking Dr. M's powers made sense especially after snapping on live TV, but yeah why wouldn't the rest of the world view it as America's weapons gone rouge or wild. Why would other countries form up with the US? I can see them forming their own union to protect themselves, but really why include the US if responsible for this mess.
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03-10-2009, 06:49 PM
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They thought of Dr. Manhattan as punishing the world, and they say something to the effect that nobody will try anything again while they think he may be watching since they now believe he has the balls to blow shit up.
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03-11-2009, 04:34 AM
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Reading the IGN review reminded me of something I thought about during the end of the movie, but completely forgot after which may make it a moot point, but still.
Mimicking Dr. M's powers made sense especially after snapping on live TV, but yeah why wouldn't the rest of the world view it as America's weapons gone rouge or wild. Why would other countries form up with the US? I can see them forming their own union to protect themselves, but really why include the US if responsible for this mess.
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Yeah, that bothered me....and the music took me out of it...(except for 99 luft balloons...that increases the awesomeness of everything it touches)
...other than that a so-so action flick that wished it had more action and thus milked every scene a fist was thrown.
As a whole I didn't care for it. Was just cool seeing a few scenes played out...and the actors did a fine job.
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03-11-2009, 08:30 AM
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One other thing that bothers mw when compared to the comic, is how they dehumanized Veidt. In the movie he never questions his actions, or doesn't until the last second, but in the book he openly weeps, expresses joy and then regret. I thought that would have been much more effective than the "comic book villain" they made him out to be in the movie. In the end, if you sympathize and feel more for the Comedian than you do for Veidt, you've failed that character.
I've never been orthodox in my books to movie transitions, but in this case I think the movie would have benefitted greatly from treating the end more like it was in the book, because in my opinion the end of the movie is what keeps this very affecting film from being a GREAT one that would have been remembered for changing superhero films even more than DK.
As for the actions sequences, though obligatory, I thought they added to the experience because it gave people an idea that these people were more than JUST troubled people in costumes, but were actual "heroes" which I think makes their tragic faults even more regrettable and gut wrenching. As I said before, the original Nite Owl was too much of a wuss and he needed a more masculine constumed side for his character to really work, IMO.
I'm still thinking about the movie days after it's release, and I'm eager to see it again, and I think that in itself says something for it. Hopefully they filmed an aletrnate, extended ending, and seeing how reverent Snyder was with the previous two acts, I wouldn't doubt the extended director's cut will have a slightly different and longer ending.
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03-10-2009, 07:40 PM
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I forgot there'd be an extended version.
I think that will be the first blu-ray i ever buy.
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I don't know how extended it will be. They just came out with a Watchmen Bluray with the entire Pirate story in animated form, as well as a whole Minutemen feature. I'm wondering if they'll release these again in the form of an ultimate director's cut along with the film and its deleted scenes?
This is what I'm talking about :
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies...55&show=review
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03-11-2009, 12:23 AM
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And they released the whole motion comic last week as well
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03-11-2009, 04:11 AM
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Also Dyne,
Don't a whole wack of the songs in the film represent quotes Allan Moore used in the Watchmen novel? He quoted a buttload of songs at the ends of various chapters.
In fact, I think he quoted 99 Luft Balloons at the end of a chapter...
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