Journalist throws shoes at Bush

[Professor S]

What immediately struck me was the fact that the reporter owes his shoe throwing freedom to the man that he threw his shoes at.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Professor S

What immediately struck me was the fact that the reporter owes his shoe throwing freedom to the man that he threw his shoes at.

He's not exactly free right now, still in custody, now with the Iraqi military. Now, if you meant his shoe-throwing-without-getting-beheaded freedom to the man that he threw shoes at, then ok.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by manasecret

He's not exactly free right now, still in custody, now with the Iraqi military. Now, if you meant his shoe-throwing-without-getting-beheaded freedom to the man that he threw shoes at, then ok.

Thats basically what I meant, being that the man has the freedom to communicate dissent. Under Saddam, the man would have been sent back to his family in a series of plastic bags.... and that's not hyperbole, thats historical fact. If he were a woman, he would have been raped first and then sent back in small plastic bags.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with the Iraq war, there is no arguing that the Iraqi people are far better off now than they were then. I'm sorry, there is that argument, but it simply lacks any credibility under any fair analysis whether you want to crunch casualty numbers or preferrably just use common sense.

That said, throwing shoes is still assault, so I wouldn't expect him to get off scott free. You can't just go around throwing your shoes at people, President or no.

[mickydaniels]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Thats basically what I meant, being that the man has the freedom to communicate dissent. Under Saddam, the man would have been sent back to his family in a series of plastic bags.... and that's not hyperbole, thats historical fact. If he were a woman, he would have been raped first and then sent back in small plastic bags.

I really hate comments like this. What you really mean to say is that the consequences have changed.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by mickydaniels

I really hate comments like this. What you really mean to say is that the consequences have changed.

They rape him like a woman now?

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by mickydaniels

I really hate comments like this. What you really mean to say is that the consequences have changed.

Ah, more senseless equivocation! When the consequences move from torture and dismemberment to being charged with simple assult, which he is guilty of BTW, and I think thats a significant change in consequences and worthy of comment.

remove the shoe throwing, and he likely would have been questioned and released.

Now if it ends up this idiot is sent to GITMO, maybe you'd have an argument, but even then he wouldn't be summarily executed.