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Old 09-28-2008, 09:17 PM   #1
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I figured the polls would show well for Obama, and that reflects that independents would have expected McCain to do much better than he did on the foreign policy issue.
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:32 PM   #2
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I figured the polls would show well for Obama, and that reflects that independents would have expected McCain to do much better than he did on the foreign policy issue.
Yet you still contend that McCain is better for the job? If McCain isn't even good at what he is supposed to be good at according to the independents, then...what is he good at? Seriously..It's over. 50% to 42% according to Gallup at this point.

This too, by the way...http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=...ntial-election

I am writing drunk from the UK, so if this isn't a great post, I understand, it's more of a a partisan gloat..
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Old 09-28-2008, 09:44 PM   #3
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Yet you still contend that McCain is better for the job? If McCain isn't even good at what he is supposed to be good at according to the independents, then...what is he good at? Seriously..It's over. 50% to 42% according to Gallup at this point.
You confuse performance during a debate for performance as president. I can say McCain did not perform that well during the debate, but still is by far the more qualified and superior candidare on almost every level. McCain came off a little bitter, and did not challenge Obama on some glaring misstatements, such as when Obama claimed McCain's accusation that Obama voted for a tax increase for Americans making $45k year. Obama vehemently accused McCain of lying about it, but in fact Obama DID vote for that tax increase according to FactCheck.

MCCain also spent too much time talking about spending when he should have stayed on the bailout topic when they talked economics. That was the hot button issue, and McCain looked like he was deflecting, when actually I think he was addressing a core issue. It came off bad.

A tie in a foreign policy debate is a win for Obama because of expectations. Obama is still the favorite, and now I think much more likely to win. It also doesn't take away from the fact he is one of the worst candidates ever to run for President.


I wonder what those numbers of Lichter's would be like post-Palin nomination? Also, being the Spring and early summer when Lichter did the study on Obama/McCain, was Obama still heads-up with CLINTON at the time? There are a lot of variables we don't know, and none of his points address any of the points I have made about media bias.
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