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Old 07-29-2008, 02:04 PM   #1
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I dont; think your being extreme in the least. In fact I think your being rather mainstrem as about 50% of the populace thinks the way that you do. I just think that its not effective as the alternative.

As fot the inevitability of recessions, I agree, but I think public opinioin can make them worse. If you tell people we are in a recession, you get scared money, and scared money is hidden and not in the ecomnomy and that pushes the economy down even farther. Its one thing to be in a recession, but its another to be on the edge of one and then make it inevitable through public statements.

And Vampyr, McCain was joking when he said those things about the economy. he has had a long track record of being VERY involved in economic panels in the Senate. The media spun it the way they liked, but his experience with economic issues is vast and detailed.

But if experience and knowledge of the economy is so important to you, as you've stated...

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Then why are you such an Obama supporter?
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Old 07-29-2008, 02:12 PM   #2
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I didn't say anything about experience, I said knowledge. I know how experienced he is, and to still make a statement that the recession is not inevitable, something that someone who knows as little about economics as I do understands, feels like pandering to all the worried people to try to get them to come in under his wing.

I'm still under the assumption that actual experience isn't as important as you make it out to be. I think Obama has enough experience, some of the worst leaders have been experienced and inexperienced, and some of the best leaders have been experienced and inexperienced, I'm not judging either candidate based on that, it doesn't make me like or dislike either one any more than the other.

And yeah, those quotes could have been pulled out of context, I've only heard the actual lines, and I didn't hear it from his mouth so I don't know the tone of voice in which they were said.

Also, I'm an Obama supporter, not "such an Obama supporter", I don't worship the ground he walks on, there are things he believe that I don't agree with. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he just wins with me on a vast majority of the issues.

EDIT: I thought I would also add that, with all of McCain's experience, I disagree with the majority of the things he chooses to use it for. What good would it be to elect a president with experience if you don't even agree with what those experiences taught him? Experience for experience sake is another form of naivety, that they will somehow, naturally, be a good president because of it.
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Old 07-29-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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Also, I'm an Obama supporter, not "such an Obama supporter", I don't worship the ground he walks on, there are things he believe that I don't agree with. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he just wins with me on a vast majority of the issues.
If I gave the impression that I thought you were a fanatic, I apologize. That wasn't the intent.

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EDIT: I thought I would also add that, with all of McCain's experience, I disagree with the majority of the things he chooses to use it for. What good would it be to elect a president with experience if you don't even agree with what those experiences taught him? Experience for experience sake is another form of naivety, that they will somehow, naturally, be a good president because of it.
Point taken. Historically I've been a huge fan of John McCain and his policies, excluding his absolutist anti-abortion stance, so I can see how you would not vote for him if you were on the other side of the isle.

I've never understood why anyone is on the other side of the isle, though.
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