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Old 04-16-2008, 07:20 PM   #1
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The Ten Commandments was watched in my Christian orientated family more than once. Ben-Hur stands as an example of film production at its height. Truly amazing actor who used his influence for good. I have Soylent Green on my hard drive, just need the time to sit for a watch. His role in Touch of Evil was superb along Orson Welles fat, maniacal bad cop role. A b&w film definitely worth the watch.
Heston was a campaigner for human rights. This guy is one of those dudes with immense public exposure who was ballsy enough to stand up for his beliefs. It's unfortunate that so many people view Heston through the contorted lense of michael moore who presented Charlton as a gun mongering idiot with no basis in fact. The truth is, the guy was diagnosed that same year with alzheimers and what more did with his editing was extremely distasteful, as was George Clooney's comments regarding Heston's alzheimers condition. If you don't believe in the 2nd amendment then you shouldn't have a problem when your government invades your home without a warrant and takes away your personal freedom. The redcoats were taking away the citizens' guns prior to 1775. wake up? Charlton campaigned for equal rights during the 60's along with MLK. Heston had much to say... to borrow from wiki:
"If Americans believed in political correctness, we'd still be King George's boys - subjects bound to the British crown."[30] He went on:

"The Constitution was handed down to guide us by a bunch of wise old dead white guys who invented our country! Now some flinch when I say that. Why! Its true-they were white guys! So were most of the guys that died in Lincoln’s name opposing slavery in the 1860s. So why should I be ashamed of white guys? Why is “Hispanic Pride” or “Black Pride” a good thing, while “White Pride” conjures shaven heads and white hoods? Why was the Million Man March on Washington celebrated by many as progress, while the Promise Keepers March on Washington was greeted with suspicion and ridicule? I’ll tell you why, Cultural warfare!"


RIP to a man in the same vein as Ron Paul and MLK.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:18 PM   #2
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RIP to a man in the same vein as Ron Paul and MLK.

I can sympathize with, if not agree completely, with most of what you wrote up until this part: Ron Paul is an anti-semite who has accepted campaign money from known white supremacists and has had his column knowingly printed in white supremacist newsletters.

Neither Heston nor MLK have much in common with Ron Paul.
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:23 AM   #3
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I can sympathize with, if not agree completely, with most of what you wrote up until this part: Ron Paul is an anti-semite who has accepted campaign money from known white supremacists and has had his column knowingly printed in white supremacist newsletters.

Neither Heston nor MLK have much in common with Ron Paul.
"In a press release, Paul repeated that the quotations came from several other writers "when I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time," and again denounced and disavowed the "small-minded thoughts", citing his 1999 House speech praising Rosa Parks for her courage; he said the charges simply "rehashed" the decade-old Morris attack."

"Dr. Paul stands for freedom, peace, prosperity and inalienable rights. If someone with small ideologies happens to contribute money to Ron, thinking he can influence Ron in any way, he's wasted his money," Paul spokesman Jesse Benton said. "Ron is going to take the money and try to spread the message of freedom."

It was a white supremacist(not plural). I don't see why that money's tainted at all. The total was $500 dollars. Personally, I think it was responsible of him to not return the donation and instead use it for something just a wee bit more positive than the message of white supremecy.
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Old 04-17-2008, 01:10 PM   #4
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I'm sorry, Seth, but actions speak louder than words. Accepting the money is one thing, and to keep it is political idiocy regardless of the spin, but to knowingly have his column in the American Free Press for YEARS is another.

The American Free Press is a "newspaper" run by a consipracy nut, holocaust denier and blatant anti-semite who has even had links on his page to Nazi propoganda. here is an interesting article about American Free press

http://www.911review.com/denial/holocaust.html

Orf course Paul and his supporters would deny his nature, its obviously unpopular and pretty damn disgusting to the general populace. I prefer to judge a man by their actions, and Paul's actions are that of a bigot.
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