LOST : season 4 *spoilers*

[Bube]

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Well, after having watched it, I have to say - I don't believe that Jin is dead. I don't really want to talk about the episode, and my theories, but his tombstone said his date of death was 22.09.2004 - the day of the plane crash. Which is impossible, because we know that Jin is alive some time past 25.12.2004.

[Bond]

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Here's me theory. Has anyone seen Donnie Darko here? I think the whole tangent universe may be going on.



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[Typhoid]

If there's a person in a bunny suit, I'm gonna shit bricks.

[Bube]

Originally Posted by Bond

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Here's me theory. Has anyone seen Donnie Darko here? I think the whole tangent universe may be going on.



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I've been comparing Lost to Donnie Darko ever since..the middle of the 2nd season - although I don't really remember why I started to think this. But, for example, Desmond's time-traveling consciousness seems to fit into this theory. As well as some other stuff.

But this still doesn't explain the mysteries of the island, of Walt and all the other things that have boggled our minds..

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by Bube

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Well, after having watched it, I have to say - I don't believe that Jin is dead. I don't really want to talk about the episode, and my theories, but his tombstone said his date of death was 22.09.2004 - the day of the plane crash. Which is impossible, because we know that Jin is alive some time past 25.12.2004.

Its a part of the cover up. And Jin is actually still on the island. And even though Jack and Sun want to go back, they can't. Because once you leave the island, you can never find it again.

Unless... Ben knows of a way...

[Bube]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Its a part of the cover up. And Jin is actually still on the island. And even though Jack and Sun want to go back, they can't. Because once you leave the island, you can never find it again.

Unless... Ben knows of a way...

There's too much talk of a cover up. I just have a feeling that it isn't a cover up, and something more complex, something along the lines of Desmond's travels.

[GameMaster]

Well, it seems like the Oceanic Six were all given a large sum of money. Maybe it was part of a lawsuit or they were just awarded it for all the distress the plane crash has caused them.

But I'm sure part of the deal is that in exchange for the money, they keep hush about all the dead people in the ocean just being placed there as part of an elaborate staging.

I also think maybe they made some kind of pact with everyone who stays on the island instead of going back home. Cause I know Sawyer and Locke don't want to go back.

So if Jack and the other five tell the world they were the only ones that survived, no one will go back looking for the people who remain.

[Bube]

I just thought about something - the ones that might be left behind are the ones with no families,nobody to know they're gone. Jin, Sawyer, Locke.. People would go looking for bodies of their families - but these don't have families..

Damn, this took half an hour to write on a cell phone..

[GameMaster]

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Thank God they finally killed Rosseau. That lady was a flaming nut-job. I never liked her.

And Sayid gets a thumbs-down from me this week for turning in Michael to the Captain.

It's finally becoming clear that Ben Linus is actually a good guy. And this Widmore character is actually the evil villain.














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[Fox 6]

Actually GM Id say that Ben is the lesser of two evils, but not by much.


remember that .....

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he killed his fahter and a bunch of other people.





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[Bond]

What does everyone think about the island not letting Michael kill himself?

Personally, I don't think it really has to do with the island per say, but has to do with the distortion of time. Perhaps he can't kill himself because he's still alive on the island? Or perhaps time travels in reverse on the island, so he couldn't kill himself back in the "real world" because he's already lived past that moment?

[Typhoid]

I missed the episode, does someone mind filling me in in a multi-spoiler post on every little insignificant detail?

[GameMaster]

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Originally Posted by Lostpedia.com

It is some time after Michael and Walt left the Island. Late at night, Michael sits in his dingy apartment in Manhattan, writing something. When he is finished, he exits his residence, enters his car, and pins the message he just wrote to his lapel, driving out into the night. He careens down by a pier before intentionally crashing his car into a shipping crate.

Michael wakes up in a hospital, sharing a room with another, older man. This "older man" appears similar in appearance to Locke's father, Anthony Cooper. The attending nurse enters and Michael recognizes her as Libby, whom he shot while on the island. Michael starts screaming and quickly realizes he was dreaming when "Libby" disappears. The real nurse enters and explains that he was found badly hurt with no identification, only a letter pinned on himself, addressed to a Walt. She asks if she should call Walt, and Michael shakes his head "no".

Michael later goes to his mother's home, full of Christmas decorations, asking to see Walt, but she refuses. She says that Michael gave his right as a father when he began keeping secrets from his mother, including where they have been for the past two months and why they have false names and identities. She then adds that Walt has nightmares every night and doesn't want to see his father because the latter said something to him previously. Michael then leaves, and sees Walt (not much older than when he left the Island) at his window, who turns away.

Michael then goes to a pawn shop and exchanges the Rolex watch Jin gave him for a gun and a box of ammunition, then proceeds to a back alley to commit suicide. Just moments before he pulls the trigger, he is stopped by an "old friend": Tom. Michael shoots but Tom avoids the shot. After a fight between the two, Tom informs Michael that the Island won't let him kill himself, whatever the way, and that Michael still has "work to do". Tom tells Michael to try again killing himself with the gun if he doesn't believe him. In any case, Tom will be at a penthouse suite of a New York hotel. A short while later, Michael attempts suicide with the gun in his apartment, but the revolver does not fire. He checks to make sure it's loaded, and, though the cylinder has 6 bullets in it, none even have an indentation from a firing pin. About to try again, he is interrupted by the news on television of the discovery of the Oceanic 815 wreck. The 324 passengers have been confirmed dead.

Confused by this, he meets Tom at the hotel, who is enjoying the company of Arturo. After asking Arturo to leave, Tom explains to Michael that the wreckage a fake, staged by "a man named Widmore" to keep others from looking in the right place where the real plane crashed: the Island. Widmore wants to keep the Island for himself and will kill everyone on it if he isn't stopped. With Michael's help, Widmore's freighter, the Kahana, can be stopped and all occupants of the Island can be saved. Tom then tells Michael that he has a job on the freighter and that his alias on the boat will be Kevin Johnson, and hands him a fake U.S. Passport. Michael questions why he would go back to work for "you people", and protests that he won't go back to the Island, but Tom sells it as his only opportunity to redeem himself for what he did; and that he won't be going back to the island: His mission will be to get on the boat, and "kill everyone on board".

While boarding the freighter at the Port of Suva, Fiji, Michael meets Minkowski and Naomi who informs him that he received a package that will be delivered to his room. Michael/Kevin then meets Miles, who "knows" that Kevin is not his real name. Miles then adds to not to worry as 80 percent of the people on the boat have a secret of some kind. Michael begins to have second thoughts about killing off everyone on board as he has now "put faces with names", but a phone call from Tom reminds him to follow through if he wants to save the remaining 815 survivors living on the island. While the ship is underway, Frank wants to be the first on the Island as he is the trained pilot here, but Naomi refuses, stating that the scientific team has priority over everyone else. Frank wants to know why but Naomi doesn't answer. Michael then meets Frank, who confides that he knows that the Oceanic 815 wreckage is a fake. Frank muses the idea to meet survivors from the crash.

Days later, at full sea, Michael hears guns being fired. He goes to the deck and sees Omar and Keamy, amongst other, firing guns. Shocked to discover this, Michael underlines the fact that it is supposed to be a rescue mission, but Keamy only brushes off the remark. Moments later, Michael is in his room, looking at the package. He opens it and finds a case. With the case, he goes to the engine room and finds inside the case a bomb. Michael inputs the combination for the bomb but hesitates to push the EXECUTE button to set off the bomb. Suddenly, he hears the same music he was listening to on the car when he tried to commit suicide. He then quickly sees Libby that tells him to "not do it", but it seems to only be hallucinations. Michael then proceeds and pushes the EXECUTE button. 20 seconds pass but the bomb doesn't explode. Instead, a note appears that says "NOT YET".

Later on, Michael plays with a ball in his quarters when Minkowski tells him that the he has a phone call from a person named Walt. After Minkowski gives Michael some privacy with the man on the phone, it turns out that "Walt" is actually Ben, phoning from the Island. Ben informs Michael that there are innocent people on the freighter, and that the plan was never to kill them all, because Ben isn't that kind of person. He gave the fake bomb to Michael to show him the difference between a man without a conscience, Widmore, and himself. Even in a war, he doesn't want to kill innocents. Michael tells Ben that Libby and Ana-Lucia were innocent, but Ben replies that Michael himself killed them, the Others didn't ask for their death. Ben then orders Michael to get him a list of everyone on board, report the list back to him, and then disable both the radio and engine so that they cannot go on the Island, therefore saving the people on it. Michael is obviously shook up, but Ben tells him that he can consider himself now "one of the good guys".

[Bond]

All previous LOST episodes are also available over at abc.com in streaming HD:

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[Bube]

This last episode changed the way I look at Lost. I'm not going to think about it anymore, I'm just going to watch it just like I watch Everybody Loves Raymond. No more theories, no more details. My head's about to explode.