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Originally Posted by Professor S
My comment about the PS3 comparison had nothing to do with the Wii (it had to do with the PS3... go figure), but to get to your point, the Wii is outselling in games because its outselling in consoles. Show me the per console numbers and then we'll talk. After all, that was my point.
And the Wii people here are talking like I don't like the Wii. I've stated that I like it a lot and in fact it will be the first current gen console I'll buy. My point was that right now the games aren't matching up to the console.
Games are pushing sales of the 360, while the console itself is the main selling force behind the Wii. Samus and Link aren't the ones pushing the sales, its the novelty and quality of the controller design and how it affects and creates gameplay (the price doesn't hurt, either). While this is creating great sales right now, my fear is that it will catch up with Nintendo in time.
The 360's library has exploded with great games of late, and looking at the upcoming games this fall and next year, the console looks to be just hitting its stride. While the Wii has Galaxy coming out, IMO it might be the game where Mario jumps the shark... and thats only if Sunshine didn't already get Mario eaten by it. Galaxy looks like another Sunshine, IMO, and I don't know if Mario will survive as an industry powerhouse if it is.
I want more for the Wii. More than just games that try and force standard gameplay into a Wii controller. Wii Sports is so successful because it took full advantage of the controller and what it can do. I've played the new Metroid... and the controls are intolerable. It took me 5 minutes to figure out how to get out of my cockpit chair. Perhaps that is my fault, but I am a gamer that is pretty experienced and long in the tooth, so I'll give myself the benefit of the doubt.
The biggest problem the Wii will face is that apart from a few outstanding titles, the industry is run by third party developers and publishers. With three major players in the console game, the Wii being the proverbial sore thumb (in both controls and system power) doesn't help it get it much support. The Wii is going to live and die by its first party titles. I think that will hurt it in the long run.
And please don't be too sarcastic or snide in dismissing my comments. I think I've been pretty objective.
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I agree with you for the most part.
Everything you said is solid but true.
Though some counterpoints and my main objection.
The 360 does seem to be hitting it's stride but outside of maybe Too Human and I believe Gears of War 2, there is very little in the way of exclusive content to get excited for in 08 so far. I know it's early but coming into 07. We had a slew of good looking exclusives for the 360 like GRAW 2, Crackdown, Forza, The Darkness, and of course Halo 3 and that is only a few games.
I am not afraid to admit if you love social gaming, the 360 is the console this gen as it has some fantastic online games.
the Wii, I also agree with, it's a fun system. And I enjoy it a great ton. More so than Nintendo's other consoles it has a nice variety of games early on. But you are right for the most part 3rd party efforts are craptacular for every good 3rd party wii game we get 10 crap ones and for the standouts, they are just released at bad times.
I think the Wii is going to hit a point in 08 where developers realize you can no longer say, o we had you attack with A on the 360/Ps3 controller, we will make it waggle now. I point to games like Zack and Wiki and No More Heroes for 3rd parties who get it. Both games have a nice style to make up for the poor system specs of the Wii and from what I understand gameplay that just would suffer on other consoles.
Now my main bone with your argument....
How the hell can you say Galaxy looks like the game Mario will finally jump the shark?
I understand you aren't the biggest fan of Mario, but this game takes the solid base that MArio 64 built and decides to use the imagination of the 2D games in a package that looks awesome. I mean I love the fact that the game is not constrained by any real world logic so it can throw any and everything at you which helps freshen up experiences. Too often games become too caught up in sticking with the rules, that very few remember if the player isn't having fun there is no pont for the game.
Also
at not being able to get out of the cockpit in Prime 3. I really think Prime 3 has some great controls. Sure they overdo the door animations but they do add to the game IMO.
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