GOP Debate Thoughts

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Xantar

I don't have a problem with Mitt Romney's Mormonism, but unfortunately it's pretty clear that a lot of people do. When you ask likely Republican voters who they would never vote for, Romney gets the highest response by far. And many of them point to his religion as the reason they won't vote for him. It's kind of sad, but the fact that he's Mormon does actually work against Mitt Romney.

I agree that he does lead the polls in those that would never vote for, but keep track of that word never. Its deceiving, because it can make a minority look like a majority by using such absolutes so early in the game. Romne is still at the head of the pack with McCain and Rudy, and he also has more money as well.

Also think, if he can get past the primaries, he'll be up against what will be a pretty left of center Democrat. I think some bigotted attitudes would start changing if that happens...

It's too bad because although I would vote for Obama or Edwards

Alright, if anyone can do this, you can: Why would anyone vote for Obama at this stage? He sounds great, but when it comes to substance he has NOTHING, IMO. The Tony Robbins of politics, and I think he'll get eaten alive in the primaries. As for Edwards, I know his politics and they are a little to the left of Lenin, but at least I know where he stands.

But I'd love either of them to get the nomination, because in all honesty thats a guaranteed win for Republicans. Can you see Edwards going against Rudy or Romne and winning? Or Obama beating McCain? Those matchups are bad news for Dems.

Incidentally, how the hell is Hillary Clinton still leading the polls? If it came down to a contest between her and Mitt Romney, even I would hesitate to vote for her. Hopefully something changes before primary season starts because unlike her fellow candidates, Hillary Clinton has no room at all to improve in the general election.

Hillary is an election monster. By the end of the primaries all her opponents are going to be bleeding in a corner somewhere babbling to themselves. She is brutal, underhanded and takes no prisoners. Hell, I even think she has Al Sharpton in here back pocket.

[Jason1]

Just for the record, right now im hopeing Edwards wins, I like him a lot, as I did 4 years ago. Hes for a universal healthcare system which I totally agree with, he wants to Withdraw all troups from Iraq within 12-16 months which needs to be done, and he gets the fact that this country is going in the wrong direction, in which, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

But Obama would also be great. I mean, he said we were wrong to go to war way back before it even started, saying that Saddam posed no real threat to the United States, and obviously he was right because this war is totally pointless as there never were any weapons of mass destruction. People say that if we dont get that job done now, the war will come over here, and thats a load of garbage. This is nothing like WWII, and It never will be.

Honestly, if it was me, I think we need to tax the hell out of the rich, make them pay a much higher percantage than the poor. Use that money for the universal health insurance, and also medicare. I also think businesses need to be taxed more. And we need much stricter gun control laws. And I would raise the minimum wage to 8 or 9 bucks an hour.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Jason1

the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

I can't argue your other points, but this one is totally incorrect. Yes, the rich are getting richer, but the poor are not getting poorer, they are getting richer as well. Just not as FAST as the rich. These numbers are off the top of my head so forgive me for any minor inaccuracies, but adjusted for inflation, the poor have gained about 30% more wealth over the last 20-30 years. The rich have gained 70% in the same time period.

This is why politicians like Edwards always talk about DISPARITY of wealth, and not a DROP in wealth by the poor. Everyone is making out in the end, but its just that the rich are making out better, which makes sense since they have more resources to invest and risk.

People say that if we dont get that job done now, the war will come over here, and thats a load of garbage. This is nothing like WWII, and It never will be.

No its not like WW2, and nothing like how we're fighting this warshould make you think anyone else thinks that way. BTW, the war is already over here and in Europe and especially Asia.

Honestly, if it was me, I think we need to tax the hell out of the rich, make them pay a much higher percantage than the poor.

They already do. We have a progressive tax system and the rich pay nearly half their income in taxes. Even with a flat tax, the rich would still pay much more, simply because they make more.

Use that money for the universal health insurance, and also medicare.

Once you can figure out how to do this without month long wait lists and personal choice, I'm all for it.

I also think businesses need to be taxed more.

Ah, so I see you love high unemployment rates. BTW, since you want to tax them more, do you know what they're taxed now? If you don't know what they pay now, how do you know they need to be taxed more?

And we need much stricter gun control laws.

Can't argue with you there.

And I would raise the minimum wage to 8 or 9 bucks an hour.

Once again, you must LOVE unemployment.