GOP Debate Thoughts

[Professor S]

Well lets clarify those comments, Mana. Yes, they are against Roe vs. Wade, but few of them said they were 100% against abortion. Roe vs. Wade is horrible law and should be repealed, but that does not equal banning abortion, it means passing good abortion law. Law that is specific and qualifies life, and doesn't just give carte blanche when it comes to ending pregnancies.

How many years have we spent arguing over Roe vs. Wade because it is horribly ambiguous precedent? If we pass clear and specific law in it's stead, then we can stop this rediculous bickering, protect burgeoning life while allowing women to have a right to choose but not KILL and get to important issues. I think that is more the point that most of the candidates were trying to convey.

Everyone, lets not just concentrate on abortion, lets keep this about the debate. If you want to address the abortion issue, please do, but try and keep it in the context of the debate (You're comments were fine, Mana, I'm speaking to everyone else)

[manasecret]

Yes I see that as a problem of "seeing" the debate second-hand from CNN, because I may read their little five-sentence blurb generalizing what ten candidates had to say about one little tiny issue (hah) and obviously not really get the true spirit of what the candidates said. That said, I'm getting it second hand from you as well. Personally, saying "Glorious day of human liberty and freedom" or "that would be the greatest day in this country's history" goes a little bit further than just disagreeing with a poorly clarified court decision.

I know what you mean, I don't want to steer this towards abortion either. Rather boring subject that goes no where anyhow. But I don't really want to talk about how handsome each candidate is either .

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Yes I see that as a problem of "seeing" the debate second-hand from CNN, because I may read their little five-sentence blurb generalizing what ten candidates had to say about one little tiny issue (hah) and obviously not really get the true spirit of what the candidates said. That said, I'm getting it second hand from you as well.

To be specific, I was fererring to their comments about partial birth abortion, which most of the candidates referred to when abortion was brought up. Roe vs. Wade gives the precendent that could make that disgusting practice legal again. I will dance the day Roe vs. Wade is overturned as well, and real law is passed, though I doubt it will ever happen.

And I'm glad to hear you don't trust me either. Go watch it for yourself, and then decide. If more people did that the world would be in a much better place.

I know what you mean, I don't want to steer this towards abortion either. Rather boring subject that goes no where anyhow. But I don't really want to talk about how handsome each candidate is either .

Unfortunately thats been a big reason for winning elections since women were given the right to vote. No I'm not being sexist, just stating fact reflected by research.

[Bond]

Yep. It's Mit Romney.

[Professor S]

The funniest thing about the debates was the choice of moderator and analyst by MSNBC. Chris Matthews and Keith Oberman????? Thats like having a KKK member analyze a Black Panther party debate.

In hindsight, though, I thought Chris Matthews did a great job. He didn't let the candidates dictate the debate and he asked hard, but mostly fair questions. Hard questions are good, and they let you know exactly where a candidate stands, even if yes or no questions are a bit rediculous to expect. Some of the questions were also a little more like statements that the candidates had to disagree with on principle, but once again, thats good. We know where they stand. Good job on all accounts.

As for Oberman, he and his crew looked like idiots (as usual). They analyzed the debate as if it were democrats that were in it. They questioned why more of the candidates weren't more opposed to the war in Iraq... do they even pay attention to politics??? In essence, all they were providing was a demcoratic response to the debates.