What are you scared of?

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Ok, please name the "Western Cults" that are threatening the eastern ones with Nuclear weapons... just name one... any one.

I was stating the sillyness in you calling it a cult.
Define the difference between a middle eastern cult, and any western religion, please?
Is it differed on the ideals, or based on how many people follow it?
It's based on neither.

And the "western cult" would be the Christians.
There.
I named one.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I was stating the sillyness in you calling it a cult.
Define the difference between a middle eastern cult, and any western religion, please?
Is it differed on the ideals, or based on how many people follow it?
It's based on neither.

And the "western cult" would be the Christians.
There.
I named one.

1) Christians have never threatened Islam with nuclear weapons. To ever state that they did is a bold faced lie or a demonstratioon of sheer ignorance. If you think I'm taking you out of context, read your own posts.

2) I call it a "cult", because its outside of what most consider mainstream Islam. I am not a fan of traditional Islam to begin with, but the kind that is pushed by Iran literally believes that it is THEIR duty to bring about the apocalypse... and the're trying to get Nulear weapons. THATS a cult, and a very dangerous one at that.

3) To compare moderrn Christianity with Iran's form of Islam is doomed on conception. There IS NO COMPARISON. To call Christianity a cult is just shows you know have no idea what a cult is. Lets look at offenses. Christianity can be charged with the ubiquitous charge of "cultural imperialism", while the Iran's form of Islam wants to wash the earth in the blood of the unbelievers to bring about the apocalypse. THAT IS A CULT BY ANY DEFINITION. The fact that this cult runs a nation does not validate them, it simply makes them quite dangerous.

Stop being PC. Stop pretending that everything is ok and we are no better than those that want to kill us for not believing in the exact same religion they do. Most of all, stop using relativism as a reason to shroud yourself in cultural ignorance. Blanket statements like `every religion is a cult' aren't enlightening, they are a continuation of an idiotic worldview hat could be the end of our way of life and even OUR LIVES. Start reading, thinking and objectively examining the situation, then form an opinion. I am finished with this dialogue until you can form an argument that shows you really care enough about your own opinions to support them with real information.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

2) I call it a "cult", because its outside of what most consider mainstream Islam.

So the difference between a cult and a religion is how mainstream it is? The more people who follow it, and know about it, suddenly the more plausible and credible it is? I find that ignorant.


EDIT:

Stop pretending that everything is ok and we are no better than those that want to kill us for not believing in the exact same religion they do.

I'm not pretending. I'm sorry if you cant carry on your life and be happy, and not live every second in fear, but I can. If you're scared of terrorism, you might as well be as equally scared of dying every time you get in a car, your house catching on fire, drowning when you swim, being shot by a stray bullet in a gun fight randomly, an earthquake, a tornado, a hurricane. I find it silly to dwell on the things we cannot control. Dont call my ways of living my life "pretending".

And to be fair, yes, they want to kill western religion. And western religion wants to assimilate them back. Different ways around the same thing: Having your religion succeed and dominate.

[Yoda9864]

Hmmm, I guess I'm scared of..... well nothing comes to mind.

.....

I'm guess I'm scared of discipline. I'll usually do whatever I can to prevent a disciplinary action against me or my friends. Hmmm, that sounds kind of weird when I say it out loud.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

So the difference between a cult and a religion is how mainstream it is? The more people who follow it, and know about it, suddenly the more plausible and credible it is? I find that ignorant.

I actually wrote a long, exasperated response to this post, where I actually shed a tear for the future of Canada... but then I deleted it.

I remembered I said I wouldn't continue this dialogue until you actually took the time to educate yourself on anything you comment on, and you still haven't. You just keep on babbling with the hope that one day something you say will have substance for the sole reason you SAID IT.

If I were your teacher I would have eaten a bullet by now. I couldn't live with that level of failure.

[Typhoid]

I'm glad to see you're still above personal attacks and insults when none have been made towards you.


I shed a tear for the children you have taught.
Surely the remedial children are the future of America.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I'm glad to see you're still above personal attacks and insults when none have been made towards you.


I shed a tear for the children you have taught.
Surely the remedial children are the future of America.

Your lack of respect for knowledge in general is an affront to humanity. My little barbs are minscule in comparison to your insults.

And I don't teach children, I teach adults. Yet another pearl of wisdom from someone who refuses to educate himself on any topic he discusses. Its been YEARS, Typhoid, that you've been embarrassing yourself in political conversation for the simple reason that you are intellectually lazy. YOU ARE NOT STUPID, just lazy, and that is worse than being stupid. I think you're a reasonably smart kid and I'd love for you to care enough about your world to learn what is going on in it.

Yeah, he should definately let it unnecessarily affect his life.

I agree with you, why worry about what we can't control.

These are opinions I can't fathom. I'm sorry you feel helpless and when it comes to your futures and those of your families, but I don't. To say that terrorists and ruthless regimes can't be controlled or eliminated is to give up on civilization in general. We can control it and fight to get our world back, if only by educating ourselves on the subject at hand and speaking out about it. We can affect the world by affecting the ideas and attitudes of our own people and government. We have the right to vote and the freedom of speech, which is more than most people in the world have (scary to think we are the minority, but its sadly true).

All it takes to stop evil is the will to confront it with no limits. Hitler was not an unstoppable force, he was a petty political boss until the world let him be a tyrant. The world tried to appease Hitler, while selling him weapons, and so he turned the world upside-down because we let him. If England alone had followed the policy of Churchill instead of Chamberlain (I think thats his name), we could have avoided the millions of deaths that followed.

The world is slowly reverting back to one reminiscent of 1938-40. Russia is pulling back to their old ways, removing the right to vote and persecuting newspapermen that critcize them, and continuing to work with Iran and sell them weapons. Venezuela is pushing South America into a pro-Iran version of Cuba. Hezbollah, the right arm of Iran, has spread across the ME and simply waiting for Iraq to fall to become more active. Radical Islam is growing in leaps and bounds in Western Europe and intense violence is still prevalent in France, even though you'd never hear about it in the mainstream news. Meanwhile Iran laughs at the world while developing nuclear weapons which they've essentially said the'll use to bring about the apocalypse, or at least destroy Israel with.

Meanwhile, we've appointment a bunch of cold-war era officials that have determined that we need to adopt a policy of appeasement and negotiations with countries who want only one thing: The US and Israel to cease to exist.

Something we can't control? No. Something our government and majority population don't have the stomach to control anymore. They're not willing to bomb mosques that harbor terrorist leaders. They're not willing to commit more troops when things aren't going well. They're not willing to do what it takes to win a war because they're scared to death of what the New York Times will say. The American people are too tired and absent-minded to stomach the fight any longer, especially when the fight is across the ocean and seemingly won't affect them, until it does affect them.

To affect change you first have to have a spine, and thats something we've lost over the last 5 years.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Professor S

These are opinions I can't fathom. I'm sorry you feel helpless and when it comes to your futures and those of your families, but I don't. To say that terrorists and ruthless regimes can't be controlled or eliminated is to give up on civilization in general. We can control it and fight to get our world back, if only by educating ourselves on the subject at hand and speaking out about it. We can affect the world by affecting the ideas and attitudes of our own people and government. We have the right to vote and the freedom of speech, which is more than most people in the world have (scary to think we are the minority, but its sadly true).

All it takes to stop evil is the will to confront it with no limits. Hitler was not an unstoppable force, he was a petty political boss until the world let him be a tyrant. The world tried to appease Hitler, while selling him weapons, and so he turned the world upside-down because we let him. If England alone had followed the policy of Churchill instead of Chamberlain (I think thats his name), we could have avoided the millions of deaths that followed.

The world is slowly reverting back to one reminiscent of 1938-40. Russia is pulling back to their old ways, removing the right to vote and persecuting newspapermen that critcize them, and continuing to work with Iran and sell them weapons. Venezuela is pushing South America into a pro-Iran version of Cuba. Hezbollah, the right arm of Iran, has spread across the ME and simply waiting for Iraq to fall to become more active. Radical Islam is growing in leaps and bounds in Western Europe and intense violence is still prevalent in France, even though you'd never hear about it in the mainstream news. Meanwhile Iran laughs at the world while developing nuclear weapons which they've essentially said the'll use to bring about the apocalypse, or at least destroy Israel with.

Meanwhile, we've appointment a bunch of cold-war era officials that have determined that we need to adopt a policy of appeasement and negotiations with countries who want only one thing: The US and Israel to cease to exist.

Something we can't control? No. Something our government and majority population don't have the stomach to control anymore. They're not willing to bomb mosques that harbor terrorist leaders. They're not willing to commit more troops when things aren't going well. They're not willing to do what it takes to win a war because they're scared to death of what the New York Times will say. The American people are too tired and absent-minded to stomach the fight any longer, especially when the fight is across the ocean and seemingly won't affect them, until it does affect them.

To affect change you first have to have a spine, and thats something we've lost over the last 5 years.

Alright. Whatever helps you sleep at night. Just remember, you're the one who "can't fathom" something here, and wasted a few minutes on typing out an elaborate post which has questionable intentions. Are you trying to somehow light a spark under the other posters here at GameTavern? Inspire them to worry about the things you're worried about? To display your obviously superior and unchallenged familiarty with the topic at hand?

Meanwhile, I'm gonna take my ignorant, lazy, spineless ass outside to walk my Golden Retriever and toss the old pigskin around with my buddy.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I'm sorry you feel helpless and when it comes to your futures and those of your families, but I don't.

Well, if you read my post, I said I dont worry about things I cannot control.

I dont know about you, but I cannot control where terrorists attack, where an Earthquake strikes, where a flood happens, where a fire breaks out and how long it carries on for, where a tornado or hurricane occur, where lightning strikes, who a murderer will shoot at point blank, when a drunk driver will hit my car, when a regular accident might occur.

But it is apparent that you can control all of these things.

Kudos to you.


EDIT: And constantly thinking about the terrorists wont make them attack you any more than not thinking about them will. Humans are incapable of controlling things with their minds, I'm sorry to say. So you may want to find another line of work, opposed to telling people over the internet how they should be thinking and living their life, because thats how you do. Which, is a very American thing. "Well I do this, so you do it too, or else you're wrong, and at fault!".

I like how you cant accept people think differently, or live their life differently.

Worrying about the terrorists, or not worrying about them, has about as much control over where they attack as worrying about the next hurricane. You can't control the weather. Get it?

If it helps you live day to day, sure. **** your pants over the terrorists if you want. I'm not telling you what to believe, think, or how to live your life. Stop doing the same to everyone on the forum.