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11-22-2006, 02:36 PM
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Re: Michael Richards goes crazy
I don't want to try and defend him at all because what he said was terrible. But when you lose your temper, things can easily slip out of your mouth that you don't necessarily mean and can very easily spiral out of control if the aggravation keeps on jabbing at you. I've seen it many times.
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11-22-2006, 02:43 PM
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Re: Michael Richards goes crazy
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I don't want to try and defend him at all because what he said was terrible. But when you lose your temper, things can easily slip out of your mouth that you don't necessarily mean and can very easily spiral out of control if the aggravation keeps on jabbing at you. I've seen it many times.
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its like a kid getting upset and saying he hates his parents. or a bad breakup with someone and saying something you know bothers them just to try and come out on top. (obviously what he said was much worse, but it comes from the same place)
again, theres no excuse, what he did was horrible.
as were the racial comments made back at him, that everyone tends to overlook.
one of the main problems, that has been said by other comedians, is that richards is not a standup. he doesnt have the experience to deal with being heckled like that, he shouldnt of been on stage to begin with.
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11-22-2006, 05:47 PM
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Re: Michael Richards goes crazy
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its like a kid getting upset and saying he hates his parents. or a bad breakup with someone and saying something you know bothers them just to try and come out on top. (obviously what he said was much worse, but it comes from the same place)
again, theres no excuse, what he did was horrible.
as were the racial comments made back at him, that everyone tends to overlook.
one of the main problems, that has been said by other comedians, is that richards is not a standup. he doesnt have the experience to deal with being heckled like that, he shouldnt of been on stage to begin with.
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i have to disagree with most of that, null. im not going to go say that he's a racist, because he may not be. i think its stupid for a stand up comedian to get angry at some hecklers...that's pathetic. call it a jackass move by the hecklers but that doesn't matter, that happens all the time in stand up comedy if you cant take it, you shouldn't be up there getting paid.
the "racial" comments made back at him are entirely different. first of all, they were retalitory after having racist comments made agianst them, and whether or not it's fair, 'cracker' isnt nearly as an offensive word as 'nigger'.
on top of all of this, michael richards is a public figure and those hecklers are nobodys. nobody is going to pay attention to what they said, just as nobody will care if you or I made a racial remark against some random person on the street (except for that random person, they would probably care). if I picked up a mic in front of a bunch of people, i have to take more responsibility for what I say in relation to what anyone in the audience says. thats just the way it is.
is the guy a racist, and should his "career" die because of this? not necessarily. are the hecklers jackasses for talking trash and then calling him a cracker? probably. but he's in the fault, here...i can't see it any other way. he turned it into something far bigger and uncalled for than it easily could have been.
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11-22-2006, 06:05 PM
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i have to disagree with most of that, null. im not going to go say that he's a racist, because he may not be. i think its stupid for a stand up comedian to get angry at some hecklers...that's pathetic. call it a jackass move by the hecklers but that doesn't matter, that happens all the time in stand up comedy if you cant take it, you shouldn't be up there getting paid.
the "racial" comments made back at him are entirely different. first of all, they were retalitory after having racist comments made agianst them, and whether or not it's fair, 'cracker' isnt nearly as an offensive word as 'nigger'.
on top of all of this, michael richards is a public figure and those hecklers are nobodys. nobody is going to pay attention to what they said, just as nobody will care if you or I made a racial remark against some random person on the street (except for that random person, they would probably care). if I picked up a mic in front of a bunch of people, i have to take more responsibility for what I say in relation to what anyone in the audience says. thats just the way it is.
is the guy a racist, and should his "career" die because of this? not necessarily. are the hecklers jackasses for talking trash and then calling him a cracker? probably. but he's in the fault, here...i can't see it any other way. he turned it into something far bigger and uncalled for than it easily could have been.
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im not totally seeing what your disagreeing with....
im not defending what he did one bit, he was wrong as can be. theres no excuse for it.
and he shouldnt of been up there. this has been said by others in the stand up industry because he is NOT a standup comedian, he is actor, and up there he was an actor trying to be a standup. i have a feeling his act probably did suck. and he had no idea how to handle being heckled, and he got frustrated and blew up.
and your right, its totally his fault. provoked or not, i dont disagree with you.
however, even tho cracker isnt really as offensive... (because honestly, i wouldnt care in the least). the idea behind it is the same, richards used racist remarks to try and get under their skin, they came back with racist remarks to try and get back at him. its all coming from the same place. its just that as you said, he's obviously in the spotlight, and he has the mic.
but if nothing else, i dont see him doing standup anymore. and if he did, you KNOW theres going to be hecklers there to try and push is buttons again.
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11-22-2006, 08:52 PM
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Re: Michael Richards goes crazy
Unfortunately, he got thoroughly pissed and some words kept coming out. Granted, he could've chosen better words but maybe if the people heckling him would've kept their mouths shut in the first place, this wouldn't have happened.
Michael isn't totally at fault. Blame is also put on the ones who don't know when to shut up. Now the ones who heckled him want MONETARY compensation by him because they feel an apology isn't enough.
What the hell does money do? Its not like he's going to go "oh no, I've lost some money, so I'm obviously hurt ever so much". It's greed that these people are after. Because they can.
That's whats wrong with society.
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11-22-2006, 11:37 PM
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Re: Michael Richards goes crazy
Yea, im not condoning what hes done, but it would be stupid to give those people any money. Stupid. Hes allready done his damage, him giving them money would not help his cause any, thats for sure.
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