PS3 Survey

[DarkMaster]

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

I just want my Burning Blade CE :<

Burning Crusade

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by manasecret

I guess that makes me a complete dick. :wheresthescratchestchinsmilie:

Hey now, everyone has a dickish tendency or two.
One of mine would be labeling so many people as dicks.

But eh, whatever... I saw a hilarious clip on the news of hundreds of people stampeding towards a store as it opened... Hundreds of people for something like 20 PS3s...

It's the kind of thing that would make my dad and his type think even lower of the gamer types and their dag blasted gaming devices, acting like such animals to get their hands on the newest, shiniest one.
When in reality, it's probably safe to say that a majority of the people charging at the store are doing so because it's basically like offering $1,000+ to the first 20 people who make it inside (alive)...
That's $1,000+ they can spend on Mexicans to handle their landscaping, South American's to take care of their children, or simply put towards obtaining eternal happiness...

Since when is gaming all about rushing retail outlets to land some easy cash? It used to be about young men in tights striking down big lizards with the aid of their faerie allies, and watching as they explode into a plume of rainbow dust...
What happened to those days, mana? What happened to those days?

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Burning Crusade

D'oh!

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Crash

heh, now that's wrong. Professor S.


That's being an @$$hole for the sake of being an @$$hole.

I don't think so. I think its giving those people their just desserts. If you wait in line for days on end for a system, it should be out of joy, love and enthusiasm for the product... not the profit you you'll make from it.

Just think if you were some guy who waited in line for days dreaming of a new PS3, only to have the store run out right before your turn, and then you find out that most of the people before you that got one just wanted to sell it on e-bay.

I hope all those auctions are jacked up under false pretenses.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I don't think so. I think its giving those people their just desserts. If you wait in line for days on end for a system, it should be out of joy, love and enthusiasm for the product... not the profit you you'll make from it.

Just think if you were some guy who waited in line for days dreaming of a new PS3, only to have the store run out right before your turn, and then you find out that most of the people before you that got one just wanted to sell it on e-bay.

I hope all those auctions are jacked up under false pretenses.

Time for me to butt in. I disagree. Those people that waited in line, but were still denied their PS3's, have nobody to blame but SONY. Its SONYs fault for not having enough available at launch. Its their fault for releasing a system before they could meet demand.

[Null]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I don't think so. I think its giving those people their just desserts. If you wait in line for days on end for a system, it should be out of joy, love and enthusiasm for the product... not the profit you you'll make from it.

Just think if you were some guy who waited in line for days dreaming of a new PS3, only to have the store run out right before your turn, and then you find out that most of the people before you that got one just wanted to sell it on e-bay.

I hope all those auctions are jacked up under false pretenses.

say you were the guy that stood in those lines, and waited and waited, out of sheer love and enthusiasm for the product, and couldn't wait to play it because you've been dreaming of it since it was announced....

say you finally got it after that long wait, you paid your $600 and you got it.

then say someone offered you $3000 for it. are you SERIOUSLY telling me you would say no way and take it home instead of the money?

i mean its basically a few thousand dollars give or take, just to wait a few months to buy one at its regular price.



im sure MANY those people on ebay really really WANT the ps3, but when you can get the money the morons are willing to pay on there, they'd be idiots not to.



and jason is right, its sony that is the one they should blame. but certainly not because they couldn't make more, because they could and most likely did. its because they release a limited number for JUST this reason..... to create this kinda hype and demand for the system. its sony that is doing this, not the people on ebay.



(but i have nothing against messing with the people on ebay either, im just saying that many of them probably planned to keep it originally )

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Null

then say someone offered you $3000 for it. are you SERIOUSLY telling me you would say no way and take it home instead of the money?

Hell no. I'd take the money. But the difference here is in intent. If someone came up and offered such crazy money for it, I would accept it, but my intent was still to be in the moment and be a part of the culture of the product. This is far different from someone who just waits in line to sell it.

Case in point: I camped out for Eagles playoff tickets a few years ago (for the infamous Falcons games where 10,000 people campoed out). Everyone there was camping out because of love of the team and wanting to see them in the playoffs the year they were SUPPOSED to win it all. Needless to say, I never got a ticket because I was one of 10,000 waiting for a ticket when only 2,000 were available. I didnt care that much because I got to share in the experience with a bunch of like-minded and equally passionate fans.

That said, if any of us there knew that one of those that got tickets only did so to sell them at a profit, they would have found him in a ditch somewhere. That is a betrayal and a bastardization of everything an Eagles fan is.

The true FANS who wait should be rewarded... not the vultures.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Professor S

The true FANS who wait should be rewarded... not the vultures.

And if there were any true Sony fans, I'm sure they'd care.

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

Since when is gaming all about rushing retail outlets to land some easy cash? It used to be about young men in tights striking down big lizards with the aid of their faerie allies, and watching as they explode into a plume of rainbow dust...
What happened to those days, mana? What happened to those days?

They're still here -- it happened Saturday night on 'til early Sunday morning. You just have to want a Wii.

It's amazing what can happen when a company provides enough units for everyone who wants it.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by manasecret

And if there were any true Sony fans, I'm sure they'd care.

Thats an odd statement considering [i]true/i] Sony fans have been sabotaging ebay PS3 auctions since launch. Obviously they DO care. Its kind of rediculous to say that there are no true Sony fans, anyway, considering the rabid fanbase that brand has with most video game players.

After all, the PS2 was by far the worst console of last generation, even behind the Dreamcast in many technical catgories, had a vicious hardware failure rate and yet it crushed the competition by millions of units sold. I'd say there are legions of Sony fans.

[Jason1]

The PS2 was behind the dreamcast in some technical categories? Id love to see those spec sheets...

[Professor S]

I forget the exact numbers, but I believe that the main one was that The Dreamcast was able to use more colors or something. I read those sheets years ago and I'd be hard presed to dig them out now. Take it for what you will. The PS2 outspec'd the Dreamcast in most respects, but not nearly to the level you would think considering the difference in generations.

But honestly, compare the two systems graphically on just a layman's test... not much difference until years after the Big D bit the dust. Shenmue alone was a brilliant looking game and comparable to most early PS2 games.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Thats an odd statement considering [i]true/i] Sony fans have been sabotaging ebay PS3 auctions since launch. Obviously they DO care. Its kind of rediculous to say that there are no true Sony fans, anyway, considering the rabid fanbase that brand has with most video game players.

After all, the PS2 was by far the worst console of last generation, even behind the Dreamcast in many technical catgories, had a vicious hardware failure rate and yet it crushed the competition by millions of units sold. I'd say there are legions of Sony fans.

You're right. What I meant to say was as soon as I can respect anyone who is a true fan of a company that likes to screw them left and right, then maybe I'll start caring.

I really don't care that I'm making gamers wait. Maybe because I'm one of them, so I know they're a bunch of impatient complaining bitches in general anyway so I just don't care to screw them over for what's only a game system. But it's also the fact that they'll be able to buy the console in another three months. It's not like an Eagles game where there's only one playoff game. You won't be able to buy a ticket to the same playoff Eagles game in three months like you can for the PS3.

I wouldn't scalp something I can respect and that's a one-time-thing (sports games, concerts, etc.). I would scalp the Wiis in a second if there was a similar idiotic demand over it.

I wonder, if it was as easy as going to a store and picking it up off the shelf, would you (or anyone else against eBaying the PS3s) -- would you buy and take the new Elmo home to eBay it? What if you could make $600 off of it? You clearly would have no intent of ever playing with it, so it would only be buying it to take it home and make $600 off other people's stupidity.

[Null]

hey, at least people who want the ps3 are getting it. one could say the idiots paying 3000 for one WANT it more then anyone else :P

there are some that buy em just to destroy em and put a video on it on the internet, thats one that no one can have






and the DC vs PS2 thing... PS2 was a more powerful console, i mean obviously. even looking at the early games of ps2, it shows (not a huge difference in some cases. but i still thinkit shows). altho one of the main things was just the textures.

DC had some numbers that showed better stats in certain areas on paper yes, but overall ps2 was a more powerful console. in many cases a lower stat in one area is used entirely different by the console as a whole.

[Jason1]

I mean I know the early PS2 games didnt really look much if any better than the Dreamcast's best games at the time. Hell, I still have my Dreamcast. But I always thought that was just because the PS2 was hard to develop for. I still thought it was quite a lot better spec wise on paper.

Then again, there was only a 1 year gap between the two right? Dreamcast was released on 9/9/99 I believe, PS2 around a year later correct?

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Jason1

I mean I know the early PS2 games didnt really look much if any better than the Dreamcast's best games at the time. Hell, I still have my Dreamcast. But I always thought that was just because the PS2 was hard to develop for. I still thought it was quite a lot better spec wise on paper.

Then again, there was only a 1 year gap between the two right? Dreamcast was released on 9/9/99 I believe, PS2 around a year later correct?

not even a year...PS2 was released in march 2000 in japan

[GameMaster]

I'd just like to tout that Ken Kutaragi originally promised 6 USB ports but as you can see, we are only given 4 USB ports now.

It's little lies and shortcomings like this that serve as nails to PS3's inevitable premature coffin burial.

What a wicked web we weave when we set out to deceive.