Just Leave - Page 3

thatmariolover · 06-04-2006, 01:13 PM

I'm not a fan a Bush, I never have been, but I think we can hardly blame him for everything that went wrong with Katrina. F.E.M.A. wasn't prepared for that disaster; how can you blame somebody when the problem could have been there for years. That said, I'm still not a Bush Fan.

People are going to stay no matter how obvious it is that they need to get out. If you moved New Orleans it wouldn't be New Orleans anymore; because its location directly and indirectly influences the City's charm.

There really isn't much debating to be done.

If some incredible feat of engineering can't be performed, then eventually people will have to move, or they will die.

Neo · 06-04-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thatmariolover

I'm not a fan a Bush, I never have been, but I think we can hardly blame him for everything that went wrong with Katrina. F.E.M.A. wasn't prepared for that disaster; how can you blame somebody when the problem could have been there for years.

I blame him for appointing someone to head FEMA who had no business running that kind of organization.

KillerGremlin · 06-04-2006, 02:21 PM

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It was no secret that the levees weren't designed for anything greater than category 3. I have no idea why they were designed that way in the first place.

Government didn't want to spend more money.

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The city isn't gone. And, yeah, relocating the city would be much cheaper than simply upgrading the existing levees. The fact is the levee system DID work for decades. To think we can't build better levees is ridiculous (just ask the Dutch about what modern engineering can do to protect against storm surges).

Hope they don't cheap out again.

Professor S · 06-04-2006, 10:11 PM

Well there are a lot of schools of thought to these arguments.

FEMA was never designed to act like a Ambulance or Police force. What I mean is that they have always come in afterwards, handed out money and helped plan reconstruction. Now knowing this FEMA didn't drop the ball, necessarily, but they needed to pick it up when they saw that this was beyond the norm for US emergencies. I think FEMA 1) Needs to be on its own, and not under Homeland Security and 2) Have emergency plans of action esigned for every major metropolitan area. Don't let these areas tell you that they are fine and prepared. Thats what New Orleans and the surrounding areas did and now look what its gotten then into.

Now, the last part of FEMA's plan:

Evacuate and level New Orleans, blow the levees and distribute shorefront properties to the remaining relocated residents.

Neo · 06-04-2006, 11:27 PM

Speaking of Leaving, I just got the Leave ending again on Silent Hill 2.

But all kidding aside, FEMA is and has been woefully underprepared for responding to city emergencies. Why, just look at the sad situation in Pittsburgh.

Professor S · 06-05-2006, 08:13 AM

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But all kidding aside, FEMA is and has been woefully underprepared for responding to city emergencies. Why, just look at the sad situation in Pittsburgh.

Thats what I'm saying. FEMA is not designed as a first response agency, or even a second or third. They have always been designed to be a mop-up service. Come in afterwards and hand out the cash and help local authorities when the ask for it. That needs to change.

manasecret · 06-05-2006, 01:00 PM

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Now, the last part of FEMA's plan:

Evacuate and level New Orleans, blow the levees and distribute shorefront properties to the remaining relocated residents.

I can't tell if you really believe all of your fomenting or not. You really think all of 1.3 million people's homes should be leveled? Even though about 900,000 of those people weren't directly affected by the levee breaks?

Your oversimplification is baffling. So I have to assume you're just exaggerating to make a point or something.

Neo · 06-05-2006, 01:28 PM

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I can't tell if you really believe all of your fomenting or not. You really think all of 1.3 million people's homes should be leveled?

But think about how much fun that would be, especially if the people were still inside.

I don't care if they want to live there, I just don't think we should have to bail them out the next time they see a corpse floating past their bedroom window. They should have to sign a disaster-relief waiver in order to live there.

Krypton · 06-05-2006, 02:58 PM

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They have music and shrimp, who could leave that.

um, no one!

Professor S · 06-05-2006, 04:03 PM

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I can't tell if you really believe all of your fomenting or not. You really think all of 1.3 million people's homes should be leveled? Even though about 900,000 of those people weren't directly affected by the levee breaks?

Your oversimplification is baffling. So I have to assume you're just exaggerating to make a point or something.

Yeah, pretty much. In case you havven't noticed, I do that a lot

. I do think that a good bit of New Orleans needs to be abandoned, though. The idea of rebuilding parts of the city that are just going to be destroyed again is what baffles ME. Nature has decreed that a good portion of that city is to be under water. No matter what we do, it will under water one day and one day soon.

KillerGremlin · 06-07-2006, 01:42 PM

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But think about how much fun that would be, especially if the people were still inside.

I don't care if they want to live there, I just don't think we should have to bail them out the next time they see a corpse floating past their bedroom window. They should have to sign a disaster-relief waiver in order to live there.

Sounds like a good deal.

we could have NEW ORLEANS: THE VIDEO GAME

Except real life.

You get a rocket launcher, maybe some molotov cocktails, and you blow sh*t up. I'm game.