I played 360

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Link1130

I know I want to spend several hundred to a thousand dollars on a new TV (and maybe new cables?) in addition to the money for my XBox360 and a game just so I can fully appreciate the graphical difference.


* Link1130 shrugs and walks away

yep...because that's only what you're going to get out of a nice new HDTV. not a sports or movies fan, are ya?


and if you care so much about looks, Cany, why are you looking forward to the Wiiiiii more than any other next gen system?

[Canyarion]

I care about looks on Xbox360 and PS3 because IMO it's the best thing they offer. They NEED their looks, Wii doesn't.

[Null]

annddd i think we figured out why he 'doesnt notice a difference'

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

I care about looks on Xbox360 and PS3 because IMO it's the best thing they offer. They NEED their looks, Wii doesn't.

Why doesnt the Wii need looks?

Because it's 200 dollars for a graphics card, and controller port, more or less?


*coughfanboycough*

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

*coughfanboycough*

i cant quite make that out, let me get you a coughdrop, see if that helps



:hands Typh a coughdrop:

Originally Posted by Typhoid

*fanboy*

[Typhoid]

Sadly, I laughed so hard at that.

[KillerGremlin]

Jee wiz forum, I wonder where 3rd party support will be for the Wii in 2 years when the system is getting its ass kicked in the graphics department. You better hope that Wii-pointer holds the 3rd party support, or you'll all be left with franchise titles.

Which probably won't bother the Nintendo fanboys.


The PS3 and 360 can put a whole hell of a lot of objects on screen at once...better textures, faster load times, more expansive environments. The list goes on!

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

or you'll all be left with franchise titles.

it's worked for the past 10 years...

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Why doesnt the Wii need looks?

Because it's 200 dollars for a graphics card, and controller port, more or less?


*coughfanboycough*

Not trying to defend Angrist here or anything but I think you missed his point as did the others.

I don't think he means to say that he doesn't wish Wii had better graphics. But for quite some time, we have all known that the Wii wouldn't offer state of the art next gen graphics. And I guess most have come to terms with that. What they will offer or try to offer is a new way to play games. We have to wait on that.

However, the biggest reason to switch from xbox to 360 or from ps2 to ps3 is its increase in graphics. Hence, if there is not a large margin of difference between the graphics, which I find untrue anyhow. Then there is no real need for the systems.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

yep...because that's only what you're going to get out of a nice new HDTV. not a sports or movies fan, are ya?

I never said that's all an HDTV could do; I wasn't commenting on HDTVs at all. I was commenting on the XBox360, and the apparent fact that you need an HDTV to be able to notice the graphic difference between the 360 and a regular XBox.

Some people have to save up to upgrade their video console and they expect to be able to tell the difference. They shouldn't have to spend another several hundred to a thousand dollars, or more, just to appreciate the graphical upgrade. That they would also gain eye candy when watching movies or sports in completely irrelevant.

And I'm a very big movie fan. I work at a movie theatre just so I can get free movies.


/me shrugs and walks away

[Null]

still looks a lot better even without an HDTV.


but the people with HDTV's shouldnt have to stand to look at a crappy low resolution game, when they paid to get the crystal clearity of HD.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by Link1130

Some people have to save up to upgrade their video console and they expect to be able to tell the difference. They shouldn't have to spend another several hundred to a thousand dollars, or more, just to appreciate the graphical upgrade.

This is what I got out Dyne's message:

-DOA4 is a very average looking next gen game, not a whole lot better than top XBox stuff
-You can, however, notice the differences much more easily when it is being displayed on a quality TV
-XBox 360 games look better on HDTVs than 'old' TVs


Now, maybe I was supposed to read "you cant tell the difference between XBox 360 and XBox unless you spend upwards of $1000 on a new TV"...Hopefully Dyne can clear that up for us.

And if you were trying to exaggerate to prove a point, it still didn't work (unless you truly believe there would be no visable difference between XBox 360 games and XBox games on a non-HDTV)

[Dyne]

Yeah.

I believe I said "I played DOA4 on my 30"-ish TV with AV output, and it looked somewhat the same as DOA3, but better."

"Somewhat" being a keyword to describe DOA4's likeliness to its predecessor. The models are a lot better, the stages are a lot more huge and detailed, and there's blur and stuff. I was absolutely amazed at the level of quality of Ryu Hayabusa's Ninja helmet on my little screen, but when I brought it to the bigger screen I really appreciated it. The textures will show up better on a better screen, of course.

Of course you can't base it off one game. I played Kameo on a tiny screen at a store and I appreciated the amount of polys the screen was pushing and some of the very realistic shining effects. However, this was back when it came out, and I played it from a jaded standpoint - but I still admired the jump of graphics. I'm sure if I played Kameo now on my own setup I'd appreciate it more.

Fight Night 3 is just astounding. No current console can do it. It's just amazing. Maybe I was a little confusing, but this game is basically the tits on any screen.