You know...some irony

[Teuthida]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Lot of talk of a clash of civilizations over this cartoon. The NY Times had a great editorial a couple weeks back about it. The Iranian response is to make cartoons about Hitler sleeping with Anne Frank -- funny how we're not rioting to such childish, sophomoric antics.

Mohammed is never suppose to be visually represented according to Islamic law. So if there's a cartoon depicted him...with a bomb as a turban no less...they're gonna be pretty damn pissed. It's not like with Jesus who's been pimped to extremes (Jesus sports statues collections...Buddy Jesus...etc.) If their goal was to make a cartoon to piss off Americans that could be easily done. But would bad on their part because what do the crazy religious nuts in the middle of the country who voted for Bush and who have never even been to NYC care so much about?: 9/11. But if they made a cartoon about that they would just be feeding the terrorists perception everyone seems to have about Muslims these days. They could piss off a country by itself, but Chrisitianity is too divided and made fun of constantly by people calling them Chrisitians anyway to care. Jewish people have heard every damn joke possibly about their people. And Hitler has been depicted comically for so long he lost his evil punch anway. Some people are actually serious about their religion.

And then again just sounds like a crappy cartoon.

[Professor S]

Here's the difference between the reactions of Christians to a religious cartoon and the reaction of Islam to a religious cartoon:

Burned cars, riots, violence and death.

I will repeat: Islam needs a massive reformation. Being Muslim is not an excuse to resort to violence anytime a person of a different faith says anything bad about your religion.

Freedom and Islam do not make good bedfellows. Until changes are made in Islam to allow for personal freedoms, there will be a culture clash and it will continue to be incresingly violent.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Here's the difference between the reactions of Christians to a religious cartoon and the reaction of Islam to a religious cartoon:

Burned cars, riots, violence and death.
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Christains would do that too, if there werent strict laws in civilized countries.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Christains would do that too, if there werent strict laws in civilized countries.

Well then, do the laws dictate the civilization, or are the laws simply a relfection of what that civilization deems acceptable?

In history, Christian civilizations have been guilty of many of the faults that modern Islam is showing, but most of those faults were addressed and resolved during the reformation and the constant evoltion of the Christian faith.

It is the static nature of Islam that lends itself to increasing violence.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Well then, do the laws dictate the civilization, or are the laws simply a relfection of what that civilization deems acceptable?

In history, Christian civilizations have been guilty of many of the faults that modern Islam is showing, but most of those faults were addressed and resolved during the reformation and the constant evoltion of the Christian faith.

It is the static nature of Islam that lends itself to increasing violence.

In history, yes. But recently? How many Christians have recently had largescale terrorist tendancies?

That was my point.


And the laws dictate the civilization. Stricter rules mean more lashing out. However, that also is true for really lenient laws.

The laws that are in effect in specific areas, dictates how that area will act.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

In history, yes. But recently? How many Christians have recently had largescale terrorist tendancies?

That was my point.

Are yousaying that Christains have had largescale terrorist tendencies recently or that they haven't? If you are saying they have, I'd like some examples, and moreover I'd like you to define what you consider to be "terrorism". If you are saying they haven't, then I agree with you.

As for laws dictating a civilization, I couldn't disagree with you more. The civilization writes the laws. They dictate what rules and standards they should live by and what behaviors are punishable. Without the civilization, the laws would not exist.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Are yousaying that Christains have had largescale terrorist tendencies recently or that they haven't? If you are saying they have, I'd like some examples, and moreover I'd like you to define what you consider to be "terrorism". If you are saying they haven't, then I agree with you.

As for laws dictating a civilization, I couldn't disagree with you more. The civilization writes the laws. They dictate what rules and standards they should live by and what behaviors are punishable. Without the civilization, the laws would not exist.

I was saying they havent. Sorry.



And I dont agree with the law and civilization thing. Yes, the civilization writes the laws, but thats just a select few who do so. They rest of the populace has to stay in bounds of those rules, thusly, defining who they are.

Laws can be changed in a matter of weeks, but a civilization cant be.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

In history, yes. But recently? How many Christians have recently had largescale terrorist tendancies?

That was my point.


And the laws dictate the civilization. Stricter rules mean more lashing out. However, that also is true for really lenient laws.

The laws that are in effect in specific areas, dictates how that area will act.

Man...what?

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Man...what?

*Makes general bland statemtn as to how Dylflon always makes posts directed at Typhoid in threads like this with no actual intent other than to seemingly attempt to annoy him.*