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Old 11-06-2005, 01:24 AM   #1
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Whoa. Why did this turn into a Moore bash, Bond?

Stay on topic.
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Re: Thousands chant 'Get out, Bush!'
Old 11-06-2005, 02:11 AM   #2
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Typhoid, sorry if my comment came off as an attack. It honestly wasn't meant to be specifically aimed at you, but after reading my comment I can see how anyone could have taken it as such.

The Oil-for-Food stuff is widely available, as well as the Resin stuff, but I'll try and find it for you. Bond already hit on the Michael Moore topic.

As for the Uranium, thats actually very interesting as I've dont more research into it and it turns out that while I was technically correct, the Uranium found was not weapons grade, but instead enriched Uranium mainly used for medical purposes, left behind when the weapons grade stuff was removed in 1992. I'll do more checking as the details are still a bit clouded. The more research I do, that harder it is to find a straight answer, as every source seems to want to report their opinion rather than the unadulterated truth.

Right now, I'm tired as hell and need to go to bed.
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Old 11-06-2005, 02:14 AM   #3
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Whoa. Why did this turn into a Moore bash, Bond?

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Read: Strangler's post - then Typhoid's reply asking for a source.
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Read: Strangler's post - then Typhoid's reply asking for a source.
Sorry, sir.

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Old 11-06-2005, 12:06 PM   #5
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From CNN.com (could only find a blog that contained the quote, not the actual source)

Materials for Ricin Gas:
U.S. troops in Iraq have found 300 bags of a type of bean used to produce a deadly poison, U.S. officials said. The discovery was made in a former brake fluid plant. The bags of castor beans were marked "urea," which is a fertilizer compound. Castor beans are used in the production of ricin, a poison that can be used in biological weapons. U.S. officials said the discovery is under investigation.

Gee, beans used to make gas and they were marked as fertilizer to hide their contents. I see NO problems with that.


Mobile Labs

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/iraq/...973195,00.html

These labs have been "debunked" as biological warfare labs, but they were never examined for chemical uses, or why they would have fermentation tanks, why they were mobile (its makes more sense to uses trucks to move materials from a central location than to move the lab... unless what they were intended to do was illegal and they wanted to hid them).

At best people don't know what they were for, at worst we can use common sense to realize it wasn't for "hydrogen for military balloons" and that whatever they were intended to be used for was not good. Materials for Gas + Facilities that can make gas = They probably wanted to make gas at some point.


Oil for Food

Here is a massive site dedicated to exposing the embarrassment that is the UN Oil for Food program

http://acepilots.com/unscam/

Here is a more specific report dealing with the charges from my post:

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...orld-headlines

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Coleman, a critic of the United Nations, said his panel's evidence shows that Galloway personally solicited and was granted oil allocations totaling 23 million barrels from 1999 through 2003. Those allocations could be sold for a profit.

The report also alleges that Galloway's friend, Jordanian businessman Fawaz Zureikat, funneled money from the oil-for-food program to Galloway's wife, Amineh Abu-Zayyad, and to the Mariam Appeal, a political organization that Galloway established in 1998 to help a 4-year-old Iraqi girl with leukemia.

Coleman said his investigators confirmed their evidence in interviews with former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, a friend of Galloway's, and former Iraqi Vice President Taha Yasin Ramadan.
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