Official! 2 versions for sale in November

[Xantar]

Nonetheless, it's pretty silly not to make the hard drive required in all consoles. Developers won't be able to use it to make loading times shorter or do effects like Blinx or what have you.

I also find it interesting that the base model doesn't have component cables. After all that hype that we have moved into the HD era and everything...

I really hope they're not trying to approach this like the PC market. Having too many options and accessories doesn't work so well here.

P.S. Did I just see Inigo Montoya saying that he....likes Sony?

[Stonecutter]

Wow, now that blows.

Europe is getting screwed. that's damn near $500 for the full system.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Xantar

P.S. Did I just see Inigo Montoya saying that he....likes Sony?

Thats PROFESSOR Indigo Montoya, my good man, and I will hear you SAY IT!!! :P

And looking at the next generation, I am becoming a fan of Sony because they are doing what Microsoft did last generation: They're putting out a superior product in the face of competition. Meanwhile MS seems to be regressing into what Sony did last generation, which is put out an inferior, overpriced product that requires endless peripherals which sucks more money out of the consumer.

Now I know that the PS3 is going to be expensive, but I have no problem paying a lot of money for a superior product. I feel insulted when a company puts out crap and then expects you to eat it up because of name recognition (hence my refusal to purchase a PS2).

Sony has learned their lesson by having a serious competitor rise from out of nowhere, and Microsoft is completely ignoring the lesson that they taught Sony.

Meanwhile Nintendo is re-releasing the old 8-bit system, but with a new controller which will revolutionize the way that we play games... THE POWER GLOVE which will be attached to a utility belt which has buttons to dispense frosty cold beverages and Pez. It will be called the BATROLLER.

God I hate Nintendo and their dismissal of the Western audience. And Xantar, just so you know I realize that you will inevitably respond with a 3,000 word essay to refute that statement, but I'll save you the time by telling you now that I will merely respond to it with this statement: "Nintendo sucks ass and you know it. Give up the ghost."

The way the whole next generation is developing is literally blowing my mind. Hmmmm, I think I might even feel a column coming on...

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Thats PROFESSOR Indigo Montoya, my good man, and I will hear you SAY IT!!! :P

...

"Nintendo sucks ass and you know it. Give up the ghost."

Oh yeah? Well the proper spelling is Inigo Montya. No d. So nyah to you, "professor."

Originally Posted by Bond

Just so everyone knows hard drive caching will still be enabled in the 360s that have a hard drive.

Great. So caching to reduce load times will be availble, but only if the game detects a hard drive attached to the Xbox. Do you have any idea how hard it is to design a game where everything that gets loaded is done differently depending on whether or not there's a hard drive? Neither do I, but the developers talking on the GameSpot boards do. And they're not happy.

At a guess, I would say that dynamic loading is either going to be non-existent or horrifically hard to develop (or maybe some games will just require the hard drive and make everything easier for us).

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Xantar

Do you have any idea how hard it is to design a game where everything that gets loaded is done differently depending on whether or not there's a hard drive?

Apparently Microsoft has developed an easy way to do it. I suppose we'll have to wait and see.

[Jonbo298]

Powerglove for the win.

The ghost lives and I will enjoy it

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Xantar

Oh yeah? Well the proper spelling is Inigo Montya. No d. So nyah to you, "professor."

Really? The correct spelling is Inigo Montya? I did not know that... And my username at PVG was INDIGO Montoya, so even though I misspelled it the first time, in this case I am technically right. So I will give myself a cookie. Abd so you know, calling me "professor" in quotes (and lower-cased no less) does not count.

Powerglove for the win.

I'm glad someone gave that little gem some respect. I was very proud of it.

[Teuthida]

[Jonbo298]

except for the Crazy awesome part. Could've choosed better word(s) IMO

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

except for the Crazy awesome part. Could've choosed better word(s) IMO

Awesome is a hip word with the kids these days...