Final Fantasy VII on PS3

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by Happydude

everybody i know who has played FFVII and liked it want's to buy the graphic remake when it comes out....and that's quite a lot of people.

Thats the point I'm trying to make......A people who have played FFVII and liked it, wouldn't mind a newer polished version..

As did fans of RE when it was polished for GCN.

[DarkMaster]

Holy crap, I can't believe some people actually seem angry with SE for doing this. How can anyone be opposed to a company trying to make their fans happy? For years and years people have whined and bitched and begged for an expansion onto the FFVII universe (it IS widely proclaimed to be the best FF game ever, whether you agree or not), and now that the people are finally getting what they wanted, they still complain.

Yeah, they're also doing it for the vast amounts of cash. Guess what? That's what companies do, they make money. People will buy it, so they're going to make it.

If you don't like it, don't play it. The fact of the matter is, there ARE people who want this to happen, so instead of bickering about it, just go play something else.

SE can assign a team to develop a FFVII remake and it will not affect any other game's development AT ALL. They have a LOT of development teams (Square teams, Enix teams, Tri-Ace teams, Game Arts teams, Working Design teams...), how else do you think that they're managing to currently work on FFXII, Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, Before Crisis, Kingdom Hearts 2, Code Age Commanders, Grandia 3, Radiata Stories, Romancing Saga, Dragon Quest VIII, Fullmetal Alchemist 2, FullMetal Alchemist 3, Front Mission Online, Front Mission 5, FFII Mobile, Front Mission 2089 Mobile, Hexcite Fushion, Ambrosia Odyssey, Drakegard II, Heavy Metal Thunder, Dragon Quest Monsters series, FFIII (DS), FF: Crystal Chronicles (DS), Secret of Mana (DS), World of Mana, Slime Morimori Dragon Quest 2, FFXIII (this is confirmed to be in development), and a sequel to FFXI?

I mean seriously, who cares what the company does? If you think they're whoring out a series, then don't buy the games and move on.

EDIT: I forgot a few games in that list, it's now updated.

[Solid Snake]

I never owned the orginal playstation so I never played FFVII, but I bought a used version and played about two hours worth on my PS2. For me it is hard to go back to the retro games with realy bad graphics compared to what I am used to seeing. The point is, I would most likely buy a remake of FFVII just so I could experience what most people say is the best FF ever made.

Even though some people think it is a bad idea, I think SE would sell enough copies to make a huge profit on the remake.

[DeathsHand]

I'm with Darkmaster on this one... I mean surrusly...

I mean I agree that they're whoring out FFVII... But the thing is, they're doing it with games that are in completely different genres...

Dirge of Cerberus is an Action sort of game, almost like DMC, I believe...

That one on PSP is supposidly an action/RPG...

And a remake, of course, would be a straight-up RPG...

It's nothing like Tomb Raider, which was the same kind of game with the same kind of gameplay over and over and over again...

Also, just because it'd be a remake and the graphics would get an update, doesn't mean that's all they would do... Look at the RE remake, there's some new areas, new storylines, some new item placement and events, etc... And if you ask me, the remake blows the original out of the water...

They could be doing something similar, keeping it true to the original while trying to keep it somewhat fresh... *shrug*

[Xantar]

Just so you know, REmake sold 500,000 copies. That's not bad all told, but it's not that good either. I never said a Final Fantasy VII remake would sell horribly, but by the standards of Final Fantasy games, which normally sell a million copies in Japan alone, it's not going to do that well. And besides that, I really think that all the Final Fantasy VII spin-offs and licenses are a bad idea. Even if they're in different genres or whatever, it's too much cashing in too fast. Even the biggest Squaresoft freaks I know have decided that the company has lost its creativity. After all, there was a time when Squaresoft didn't need to do this kind of rehashing. You may not hate the idea, you may even be planning to buy all the games, but there's nobody who has been fooled into thinking that this is anything other than a cynical ploy to get some cheap revenue. Honestly, would it be the end of the world for you if there was never a remake?

Where does it end? At the rate things are going, if all three of these new spin-off games sell well (which I'm not certain all of them will), Squaresoft will be encouraged to make even more Final Fantasy VII spin-offs. At some point, even if they're all different genres and have new levels or whatever, people are going to get tired of it.

I also wish that you all would stop telling me about how many people you know who would buy this game as if that actually means anything. I can tell you that half of the people I know who liked Final Fantasy VII don't plan to buy the remake and don't like the idea and it would be true. Hell, I could tell you that I personally know a few hundred people who would line up in stores to purchase a game that was written entrely in Vietnamese. Does that mean making a Vietnamese language game is going to be a good idea? When companies go around making decision like this, they do some market research. They don't go around asking some of their personal friends whether they would buy the new game. So stop thinking that your opinions and the opinions of the people you know means anything about the world at large. I certainly don't. What I do have is the history of remakes which demonstrates that such games are lucky if they can manage a million units sold worldwide.

In the short term, it certainly won't hurt Square-Enix to release a graphically updated version of Final Fantasy VII, but I guarantee that they are quickly reaching the point where people just aren't going to keep buying because they want something new. That's bad for the long term. If Square-Enix wanted to do this properly, it wouldn't kill them to wait three or four years in between each game. Nintendo, among others, has demonstrated that you can keep a franchise going forever that way. As it is now, I will be seriously surprised if Square-Enix even announces a Final Fantasy VII game or spin-off for the PS4. The cash cow just doesn't stretch that far.

[Canyarion]

Well I agree that they're milking it a bit too much. Their fans said 'FFVII is the best' and after a while they came up with all these extra FFVII things.

You won't hear people complain, like you don't hear them complain about every new Pokémon game, but it's not the path they should take.

To support Xantar a bit more on this:

Originally Posted by Happydude

everybody i know who has played FFVII and liked it want's to buy the graphic remake when it comes out....and that's quite a lot of people.

So you KNOW 'quite a lot of people' who would buy it, or you assume there are quite a lot of people that would, because you know a couple that will??

[MuGen]

The point isn't that a lot of people would jump in line to buy this game. The point is that FFVII may be undergoing a makeover in terms of graphics. That was the point of discussion, and you guys are jumping to conclusions and all of a sudden creating implications that the company is making a mistake, and that it either won't sell as much or won't sell at all. Every franchise has it's cult following and it's been proven. No matter how re-hashed a game is, there will be people out there who are willing to buy it or who really want to play it.

There was no original arguement about how many copies this will sell or not, that point came straight from your a$$ Xantar. MY point is that I know a lot of fans out there who wouldn't mind seeing a re-polished FFVII, whether it be forum followers or gamers I game with. You have no ground to discredit anyone. What you're doing is like going to a website you hate just to curse it off on it's tagboard.... wasting your time.

People will think this is a great idea and people will look forward to it. Then there are those who don't really care too much for it, or don't think it's really a big deal, nor do they think it's good move on Squeenix's part. But I'm one of those people who are looking forward to it, and I don't need you trying to super impose your thoughts about Square's market strategies on me. You talk in your posts about market strategies and Square enix as if you know what is happening behind closed doors.

We don't know if Square looked at all the fans and gave in to their letters, or if Square is just rehashing it for more money. One thing is for sure... .for a tech demo, the FFVII footage at the Sony Press Conference got the audience's blood pumping again. The point is not to play the game again with just upgraded graphics. It's to EXPERIENCE IT once again, with nice visuals and upgrades. You might not think so, but there is a difference between playing a game again and experiencing it again.

Curiosity lingers within all of us, whether it be strong or weak. The curiosity of seeing how they could present the world of FFVII in next-gen graphics interests me.. and thats that.