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Old 06-22-2005, 01:16 PM   #1
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I, personally, would rather S-E work on a BRAND NEW Final Fantasy, rather than whoring out an old one like they have. I mean, its one thing to return to the world and please osme fabns, but when you have, like, five different projects focused on one FF game, including a bloody remake, its just going too far.

FFVII wasn't even all that good anyway. IX was better. And IV. And VI. And X. And VIII in some ways.

I would rather Sqeenix finish XII and get to working on XIII.


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Old 06-22-2005, 02:06 PM   #2
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i doubt it.... too many ff7 things already


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Old 06-22-2005, 02:18 PM   #3
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FFVII wasn't even all that good anyway. IX was better. And IV. And VI. And X. And VIII in some ways.

I would rather Sqeenix finish XII and get to working on XIII.


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You'd be surprised as to how many millions of people would like to see this happen. And rumors are pointing to an add-on and like a sequel.

I myself would like to see a remake just for the graphical polish and to play the game again in that fashion.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:39 PM   #4
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I'd rather have a new Chrono game. Yep.
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:41 PM   #5
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we all kno the CTR project was stopped
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Old 06-22-2005, 02:51 PM   #6
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I don't mean the resurrection, I meant a new installment to the series. :P
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Old 06-22-2005, 03:15 PM   #7
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go to Square Enix's website and you'll see this new installment.

Also, the fact that the names Unlimited Saga and Chrono Break were registered trademarks from Square together...
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Old 06-22-2005, 04:48 PM   #8
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You'd be surprised as to how many millions of people would like to see this happen. And rumors are pointing to an add-on and like a sequel.

I myself would like to see a remake just for the graphical polish and to play the game again in that fashion.

No, I wouldn't be surprised. I know how much people want this; I just don't and think its stupid.

I also see no point in graphical upgrades. A great game is great not because of how it looks, but how it plays. FFVII will be the same game as it ever was, just with prettier graphics. I'd rather have a new game with pretty graphics than just an old game with a makeover.


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Old 06-22-2005, 08:44 PM   #9
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No, I wouldn't be surprised. I know how much people want this; I just don't and think its stupid.

I also see no point in graphical upgrades. A great game is great not because of how it looks, but how it plays. FFVII will be the same game as it ever was, just with prettier graphics. I'd rather have a new game with pretty graphics than just an old game with a makeover.


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OMG... Whose saying they are trying to reinvent FF7?

FFVII is already a great game, but it wouldn't hurt to have a remake.
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Old 06-22-2005, 11:05 PM   #10
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OMG... Whose saying they are trying to reinvent FF7?

FFVII is already a great game, but it wouldn't hurt to have a remake.

Well I know I didn't. In fact, far from it. I said, "FFVII will be the same game as it ever was, just with prettier graphics." No mention of reinventing FFVII, just updating the graphics (which is the point of the remake). You might have misunderstood "an old game with a makeover," but the "makeover" part was referring to only the graphics.

So, who exactly is saying they are trying to reinvent FFVII?

As it doesn't really matter if its a different team on FFXII or not. The team doing FFVII-redux would be better used on FFXIII. Or even some other game. The Chrono team might be doing FFXI, but they don't necessarily have to do the next Chrono game.


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Old 06-23-2005, 01:21 AM   #11
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OMG... Whose saying they are trying to reinvent FF7?

FFVII is already a great game, but it wouldn't hurt to have a remake.
It's very simple: sooner or later, people will get tired of franchises getting whored out. If it happened to Tomb Raider, it can happen to Final Fantasy VII. So even if I loved FF VII and thought it was the greatest game ever made (which I don't), I wouldn't want this because ultimately, it would hurt the franchise. In the coming years, Final Fantasy VII is overexposed already, and from where I sit, people who don't have Cell chips running their brains are already getting tired of it. As far as they're concerned, Square-Enix should have just stopped with Advent Children.

By the way, I'd really like to see where you get off saying that lots of people would love to see this happen. Lots of your friends want it? People slobber over it on message boards you visit? Great. Now show me some solid data.

And while you're at it, try to differentiate between people "who would love to see it happen" and people "who would pay $50 to play the game all over again."
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Old 06-23-2005, 01:41 AM   #12
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It's very simple: sooner or later, people will get tired of franchises getting whored out. If it happened to Tomb Raider, it can happen to Final Fantasy VII. So even if I loved FF VII and thought it was the greatest game ever made (which I don't), I wouldn't want this because ultimately, it would hurt the franchise. In the coming years, Final Fantasy VII is overexposed already, and from where I sit, people who don't have Cell chips running their brains are already getting tired of it. As far as they're concerned, Square-Enix should have just stopped with Advent Children.

By the way, I'd really like to see where you get off saying that lots of people would love to see this happen. Lots of your friends want it? People slobber over it on message boards you visit? Great. Now show me some solid data.

And while you're at it, try to differentiate between people "who would love to see it happen" and people "who would pay $50 to play the game all over again."
Stop antagonizing me because you don't think FFVII Is one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made. Aside from VI, VII marked one of the best storylines ever interpolated into a RPG.

It surprises me that you don't even know about the mass cult following FFVII has. Go to any gaming forum, mention FFVII and you'll get a mass amount of people from each forum that will accomodate you, Albeit GT considering it used to be a Nintendo forum and VII seperated marked a new relationship from Nintendo and on Playstation..

Nintendoids pay money all the time to see Mario in everything else, and they pay money for Zelda after Zelda game....... Now.... to pay $50 for a remake of a game thats only been done once....isn't going to hurt the franchise as much as you would hope it would. All FF games have been original, except for X-2 being a sequel. And you cannot count Advent Children considering it's a friggin movie.

So to have a VII remake? You act as if this is the millionth time they've remade a game. Honestly the only 'whoring' I've seen from Square is FFX-2.
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Old 06-23-2005, 02:13 AM   #13
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Stop antagonizing me because you don't think FFVII Is one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made. Aside from VI, VII marked one of the best storylines ever interpolated into a RPG.
Overly confusing storylines does not equal best FF.


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It surprises me that you don't even know about the mass cult following FFVII has. Go to any gaming forum, mention FFVII and you'll get a mass amount of people from each forum that will accomodate you, Albeit GT considering it used to be a Nintendo forum and VII seperated marked a new relationship from Nintendo and on Playstation..
I knew he'd start calling us Nintendo fanboys at some point...

Now listen. Xantar is not a Nintendo fanboy in anyway. Now, he only post every now and then (more so recently, but still not a whole lot) and you are relatively new, so I can't blame you for not knowing him, but I can safely assure you that he is not a "fanboy" of any kind.

As for me, well, FFVII was my first Final Fantasy. I didn't really even know what either Square or Final Fantasy were until well into the N64/PSX era (that would be after the split). My favorite FF is FFIX, a PSX game. Not liking FFVII the best has nothing to do with it being the first FF not on a Nintendo system or anything to do with the split. I just don't like it as much as others.

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Now.... to pay $50 for a remake of a game thats only been done once....isn't going to hurt the franchise as much as you would hope it would. All FF games have been original, except for X-2 being a sequel. And you cannot count Advent Children considering it's a friggin movie. So to have a VII remake? You act as if this is the millionth time they've remade a game. Honestly the only 'whoring' I've seen from Square is FFX-2.
We don't hope that a remake will hurt the franchise; not at all. I love Final Fantasy, which is why I would rather play a whole new game than an old one with a new face.

And there are far more FFVII products coming out than a remake and a movie. There is: Dirge of Cerberus, Crisis Core, and Before Crisis. With a remake, there will be four new games based off of the FFVII universe. While I was all up for a sequel or whatever, this is way too much. And the movie does count because it is still helping to oversaturate the market, whether it is a game or a "friggin movie."


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Old 06-23-2005, 03:18 AM   #14
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Stop antagonizing me because you don't think FFVII Is one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made. Aside from VI, VII marked one of the best storylines ever interpolated into a RPG.

It surprises me that you don't even know about the mass cult following FFVII has. Go to any gaming forum, mention FFVII and you'll get a mass amount of people from each forum that will accomodate you, Albeit GT considering it used to be a Nintendo forum and VII seperated marked a new relationship from Nintendo and on Playstation..

Nintendoids pay money all the time to see Mario in everything else, and they pay money for Zelda after Zelda game....... Now.... to pay $50 for a remake of a game thats only been done once....isn't going to hurt the franchise as much as you would hope it would. All FF games have been original, except for X-2 being a sequel. And you cannot count Advent Children considering it's a friggin movie.

So to have a VII remake? You act as if this is the millionth time they've remade a game. Honestly the only 'whoring' I've seen from Square is FFX-2.
You know, I think it's really cute how you keep posting as if you think somebody is going to seriously pay attention. But just to accommodate you, let me point out a very simple distinction:

The internet does not equal the world.

Got that? Ok, good. Now, how many people will I find on any particular message board who reply "yes" when I ask the question, "Do you want a graphical update of Final Fantasy VII?" A hundred? A thousand?

Now how many copies does a Final Fantasy game have to sell in order to be considered a success? 500,000? A million?

You see my point, I hope. I'm never going to find enough people simply by combing through internet message boards to conclude one way or another. I might find that there's a rabid fanbase, but that says nothing at all about the real world out there where people spend real money. Metroid Prime was hailed by many as the possibly the greatest game made in this generation, but that didn't help sales of Metroid Prime: Echoes very much. The news that Resident Evil was coming to the GameCube sparked so much furor that countless petitions were started up asking Capcom to bring the franchise back so the PS2. You'd think that it was one of the biggest deals of the decade from all the hype that was started up at the time, but the truth is Resident Evil: Remake didn't do all that fantastically well either.

So why don't you tell me again: what proof do you have to offer me that a graphical update of Final Fantasy VII is in demand and will do well in sales? Internet message boards don't count. The most you could prove to me with that is that maybe 10,000 people would buy it. That's a bit of a far cry from hundreds of thousands, don't you think? Don't make the mistake of thinking that just because there are a bundh of rabic fanboys on the internet that the world at large will care at all about Final Fantasy VII. Using that same logic, I could also conclude that a Catherine Zeta-Jones videogame is also going to be a huge hit. In all likelihood, there are more people who know her name than there are people who have heard of Final Fantasy VII.

Incidentally, if you think that the only whoring Square Enix has done is FF X-2, then I guess you haven't heard of Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus or Final Fantasy VII: Before Crisis. Add these to Final Fantasy VII: Remake (or whatever they call it) and you get three games in the Final Fantasy VII world within a year and a half or so. At least when a new Mario or Zelda game is made, it takes place in a substantially different world. And besides that, it's been three years since either a Zelda or Mario game has come out on consoles. It's funny how people trying to criticize Nintendo always seem to miss little details like that.
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Old 06-22-2005, 05:57 PM   #15
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We would?

I would prefer a new FF too.
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