Senator Durbin (D) Compares Gitmo to Nazis

[Professor S]

How the Hell did this go from a thread about GITMO to a thread about how cold it is in Friggin' Canada?

Canada is ****ing COLD, mother****er! I lived in Toronto for almost 3 months in the late winter/early spring and I almost lost my balls to frostbite.

As for the article that Stonecutter posted, it was a heroic attempt at turning Durbin's offensive and rediculous rhetoric back at the Republicans, but it fails on shallow logical analysis. The fact is that if Durbin didn't make such rediculous claims there wouldn't be anything for the Republicans to rightfully complain about. The Republican party has been demonized by the Democrats for years, with Howard Dean, the head of the DNC, even calling Republicans "EVIL". Please excuse the Republican party if they wish to defend themselves against such assinine and childish insults.

The fact is that the Democrats are trying to slander the Republicans by any means necessary, and they are failing miserably, namely because they are guilty of such inflammatory and hyperbolic exaggerations. Mr. Hinz attempts in vain to dismiss Durbin'sna comments as mere "hyperbole" and then has the balls to say "name me a politician anywhere in
Washington these days who doesn't use strong words".

Mr Hinz, we both know these are more than strong words. Durbin attempted to misinform the public by comparing legal interrogation tactics, even under the geneva convention which we are under no obligation to follow with illegal combatants, with murder factories in Cambodia, the USSR and Nazi Germany. But more importantly he was making an implied comparison of their leaders. In essence Durbin was saying that President Bush is just as guilty of human rights violations as Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Pol Pot. This is slander in its basest form and would be considered sheer lunacy if he actually made the direct comparison.

The scariest part about this entire pseudo-scandal is that it exposes how desperate and power hungry the democratic party really is, Durbin and Hinz included: They are willing to encourage the enemy and endanger American civilian and military lives by creating a scandal around GITMO and using that to smear President Bushg and Republican party for the next election. It is a shamful, desperate and in the end self-destructive plan. Exactly what the democrats have turned into under the leadership of those like Dean and Durbin.

Personally, I hope they keep going the way they are going. They'll keep on alienating themselves from the mainstream and come the next election the Republicans will win by even more votes. But hey, Dean and Durbin will still have their little positions of power based on propoganda and scandal, rather than actually trying to do anything or work with anyone they don't agree with.

[Typhoid]

Strangler, Saying Canada is cold based on just the east, or in your case just Toronto, that would be like me saying everyone in the US is a thief, because my brother got robbed in Seattle. Or like saying that all of the US are inbred hicks based on Alabama.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

How the Hell did this go from a thread about GITMO to a thread about how cold it is in Friggin' Canada?

I did good, huh?

[Professor S]

Typhoid, Canada is north of most of the inhabitted areas of the world, meaning that by any stretch of te term and through comparitive reasoning, CANADA IS COLD.

Stop trying to rationalize it. Its cold as hell in th winter, much colder than say... THE ENTIRE USA IN THE WINTER. If you live on the coast and its mild during the winter, you do not represent the majority of the country, or even a large minority.

Jesus, just deal with it instead of miscontruing common observation as a national insult.

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Typhoid, Canada is north of most of the inhabitted areas of the world, meaning that by any stretch of te term and through comparitive reasoning, CANADA IS COLD.

Stop trying to rationalize it. Its cold as hell in th winter, much colder than say... THE ENTIRE USA IN THE WINTER. If you live on the coast and its mild during the winter, you do not represent the majority of the country, or even a large minority.

Jesus, just deal with it instead of miscontruing common observation as a national insult.

Gekko said Every Canadian on this Board is used to the cold weather. Then I said that the 5 or so members that live in the valley experience warm to moderate weather. Jeez, i wasn't talking about the whole country in general. I was responding the the comment, like people are supposed to. pfffff.

/me ends useless rant

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

As for the article that Stonecutter posted, it was a heroic attempt at turning Durbin's offensive and rediculous rhetoric back at the Republicans, but it fails on shallow logical analysis. The fact is that if Durbin didn't make such rediculous claims there wouldn't be anything for the Republicans to rightfully complain about. The Republican party has been demonized by the Democrats for years, with Howard Dean, the head of the DNC, even calling Republicans "EVIL". Please excuse the Republican party if they wish to defend themselves against such assinine and childish insults.

Oh please. Republicans drop rhetorical bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb on democrats. The Clintons are weak, the Kennedys are socialists, the democrats are weak in general on foreign issues, they let murderous thugs run wild, they fund lots of pork, those who defend civil liberties are anti-american, time and time and time again they come after the liberals in the country and when the democrats fire back they hear "Oooohh you can't do that" from both sides of the aisle.

The only problem with the situation is the rest of the limp-dicked, meek democratic party chastising the few members who actually have the balls to fire back every now and then.

Durbin had every right to say what he said and should say it again and again. Dean too.

I'm so ****ing sick of the democratic party bending over and letting the republicans attack them with this two faced hypocritical bull****.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Republicans drop rhetorical bomb after bomb after bomb after bomb on democrats. The Clintons are weak, the Kennedys are socialists, the democrats are weak in general on foreign issues, they let murderous thugs run wild, they fund lots of pork, those who defend civil liberties are anti-american, time and time and time again they come after the liberals in the country and when the democrats fire back they hear "Oooohh you can't do that" from both sides of the aisle.

The difference is that what you are quoting are coming from republican pundits and talk show hosts.... NOT POLITICIANS. The democrats are using politicians to make such attacks, and that is what is causing the furor. Do the Republicans go crazy everytime Alec Baldwin or Al Franken attack them? No, but when Howard Dean and Dick Durbin do it, its a little different.

Durbin had every right to say what he said and should say it again and again. Dean too.

I'm so ****ing sick of the democratic party bending over and letting the republicans attack them with this two faced hypocritical bull****.

And I hope every democrat feels exactly the same way, however delusional that feeling is. It means continued elections won by the Republicans. Leftists are hurt, defensive and desperate, as illustrated by your post. Your are lashing out and its hurting your party of choice.

Please continue to do so.

[Stonecutter]

As I'm leaving for the other side of the world in about 36 hours I really don't have time to research a response to that but don't think I'm letting you slide.

[Professor S]

Well then let me put my opinion in another fashion:

There is a difference between dissenting opinion and trying to undermine our efforts in Iraq and endangering troops there. I wouldn't care if Durbin simply stated that he would like to see the detainees held in gitmo treated better and that they should be tried or released. That is a dissenting opinion and a part of political discourse.

What Durbin did was to undermine the war effort and give our enemies justification for mistreatment of our troops and POW's. His attempt to create an impassioned debate by making absurd comparions in levels of treatment might and probably will get American troops and civilian workers killed.

Just for those possible reprocussions, Durbin needs to apologize and apologize a soon as possible.

[Ravishing Rick Rude]

i think jon stewart said it best " don't compare peopel to hitler, you're de-meaning them, yourself and hitler!"