Kerry, Bush had similar grades

Bond · 06-13-2005, 07:25 PM

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BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- Sen. John F. Kerry's grade average at Yale University was virtually identical to President Bush's record there, despite repeated portrayals of Kerry as the more intellectual candidate during the 2004 presidential campaign.

Kerry had a cumulative average of 76 and got four Ds his freshman year -- in geology, two history courses and political science, The Boston Globe reported Tuesday.

His grades improved with time, and he averaged an 81 his senior year and earned an 89 -- his highest grade -- in political science as a senior.

"I always told my dad that D stood for distinction," Kerry said in a written response to reporters' questions. He said he has previously acknowledged focusing more on learning to fly than studying.

Under Yale's grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade.

In 1999, The New Yorker magazine published a transcript showing Bush had a cumulative grade average of 77 his first three years at Yale, and a similar average under a non-numerical rating system his senior year.

Bush's highest grade at Yale was an 88 in anthropology, history and philosophy. He received one D in his four years, a 69 in astronomy, and improved his grades after his freshman year, the transcript showed.

Source: CNN

You mean to tell me that President Bush isn't an idiot and that he got the same, if not better, grades than Kerry? *gasp* Who knew...

Typhoid · 06-13-2005, 07:27 PM

*Gasp*

You mean were still hung up on comparing thw two when nobody really cares anymore.

Who knew?

Bond · 06-13-2005, 07:31 PM

Anytime I can get cheap and easy amusement out of pissing off the board liberals and proving President Bush is not stupid? Yes, of course.

Professor S · 06-13-2005, 07:36 PM

Typhoid just doesn't like the fact that now most of the posts that he made during the election are now rendered 100% invalid.

Fox 6 · 06-13-2005, 07:44 PM

old news to me.

Still think Bush didn't deserve to win.

and im not going to argue with anyone.

Typhoid · 06-13-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Typhoid just doesn't like the fact that now most of the posts that he made during the election are now rendered 100% invalid.

I didnt make any posts about Bush's intelligence.

And I really dont care.

Its not my country.

EDIT: Oh, and Strangler, its good to know that while you were away you decided to stop attempting to start arguments and making minor personal attacks.

Xantar · 06-13-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

Anytime I can get cheap and easy amusement out of pissing off the board liberals and proving President Bush is not stupid? Yes, of course.

Bond being childish? *gasp* Who would have thought?

Perfect Stu · 06-14-2005, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Xantar

Bond being childish? *gasp* Who would have thought?

oh snap!

Dylflon · 06-14-2005, 02:51 AM

You know who's even more stupid than Bush?

The people who don't question his actions. Some people eat up his decisions and what he says like they were delicious biscuits. There's a difference between being behind your president and being an ignorant sheep.

Board republicans, can you honestly say that Bush has never come off as stupid or is as smart as a president should be? Do you beleive that every decision he made had been the right one?

If you answer Yes I truly feel that you are not thinking so much as being lead on.

I'm not saying this out of bias but President Bush in my opinion is one of the duller men to have lead the free world regardless of how his school marks stack up against Kerry's. Some of his decisions have been bad ones. Example: Doing away with some clean air laws. How is this good for anything? What about how he turned a gigantic surplus into the biggest deficit (correct me if I'm wrong) in human history. How can you even try to blame that one on Clinton? He'd have to be some sort of evil mastermind to orchestrate that. Bush makes mistakes. He ****s up. He's not an incredibly intelligent man. He's not the dumbest but jeez...every single student in my Lit class is more articulate than he is. And he's the leader of the free world.

The people who believe he is a faultless leader in my opinion are pretty damn dumb.

Neo · 06-13-2005, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

You mean to tell me that President Bush isn't an idiot

No, he's still an idiot. An idiot who was smart enough to get his daddy to help him avoid vietnam, but an idiot nonetheless.

Ginkasa · 06-13-2005, 08:25 PM

Disclaimer: I have no stand upon the intelligence of either Kerry or Bush, or really any other politician for that matter.

I just wanted to point out that grades don't always accurately relfect the intelligence of a person. Some of the most intelligent people get the worst grades because of laziness, etc.

So...

/me shrugs and walks away

Canyarion · 06-14-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Link1130

Disclaimer: I have no stand upon the intelligence of either Kerry or Bush, or really any other politician for that matter.

I just wanted to point out that grades don't always accurately relfect the intelligence of a person. Some of the most intelligent people get the worst grades because of laziness, etc.

So...

/me shrugs and walks away

*waves hand*

But I'm not really proud of it.

Laziness is a terrible habit. I'd rather be less smart and less lazy.

BreakABone · 06-14-2005, 03:10 PM

well to add to Link's original post... do we even know they took the same courses?
I mean I'm sure they probably majored in Political Sciene or something in that vein...

But I find it completely different if you average an A in Engineering and an A in business. Same grade. Different levels of intensity, depending on school and of course area.

But eh...

MuGen · 06-14-2005, 04:19 PM

Why is this even an arguement now? Bush is our leader now, and whether or not he's smart or not. It doesn't do anything for this country if we are not united and willing to follow him. Sure he doesn't make decisions that sway well with many but he has to make the decisions and not you, so he has to carry the burden whether the decision made was right or not. I'm tired of everyone bantering about this, using political labels as if they know 1/4's of what they are talking about.

Bush makes the decisions and he has to go through a terrible amount of pressure and angst before making those decisions. He appears relaxed before us in speeches and addresses but you cannot tell me he's that laid back when faced with a decision that'll effect America. We take Presidents too lightly, and we think that everything is easier for them.

Until we face what presidents face today, we cannot label them stupid, naive, or cold hearted. It's tough being a leader.... If you ask SHAQ how he feels when everyone is relying on him, he'll probably shrug.

I'll go on by saying Bush isn't the best president we've had...I will say nothing about his intelligence or the decisions he's made.

Perfect Stu · 06-13-2005, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bond

You mean to tell me that President Bush isn't an idiot and that he got the same, if not better, grades than Kerry? *gasp* Who knew...

There's a difference between "not an idiot" and "how smart a president should be"

If people actually think that Bush is an IDIOT, they should look at the average person in close detail...you'd be surprised how stupid people in general are. But as far as presidential standards go, he is indeed on the slow side. I'm neither democratic nor republican...but as a Canadian, when I look at Bill Clinton and then look at George W. Bush, there's just no comparison.