Star Wars *Spoilers* - Page 5

Ginkasa · 05-24-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand

Me and my friend were discussing that the other day, and basically came up with the exact same idea you did...

Mostly based on Episode I being faaaairly pointless to the overall plot, and Anakin's turn to the dark side (after he actually became Darth Vader) going by just a little too fast...

Yeah, I think its a pretty obvious solution and general consensus by those who think about it...

/me shrugs and walks away

Fox 6 · 05-25-2005, 12:21 AM

Super great movie! The NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! was great. That Lizard did get annoying after awhile. I enjoyed the progresstion of technology and designs to what we are all familiar with from the originals.
That has to be the best field trip I have ever been on.

Crash · 05-25-2005, 03:47 AM

Field trip eh?

Solid snake and I are hard at work, crafting a clone trooper helmet. We are still is the carving a mold stage, I'll take pictures at a later date when it doesn't just look like a block of plaster.

Professor S · 05-25-2005, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sony

I'm surprised Hayden's name wasn't in the credits for Episode VI return of the jedi..

I got the newer 2004 trilogy release and they changed Anakin in the end of Episode VI to Hayden instead of the old guy.... makes the story connect better.

Thats friggin' IT. I'm sick of Lucas going back and crapping on his earlier work. You can't find the original, non-cg Star Wars movies anymore, and now he goes ahead and simply starts changing the actors in his movies. Honestly, how little respect for his audience does he have if he can't trust that we will be able to suspend disbelief long enough to realize that the older Anakin is just that... AN OLDER ANAKIN.

George Lucas has lost his goddamn mind; but I'm a film purist so I might think its a bigger deal than most people.

DeathsHand · 05-25-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Thats friggin' IT. I'm sick of Lucas going back and crapping on his earlier work. You can't find the original, non-cg Star Wars movies anymore, and now he goes ahead and simply starts changing the actors in his movies. Honestly, how little respect for his audience does he have if he can't trust that we will be able to suspend disbelief long enough to realize that the older Anakin is just that... AN OLDER ANAKIN.

George Lucas has lost his goddamn mind; but I'm a film purist so I might think its a bigger deal than most people.

That ghost isn't supposed to be an older Anakin which technically didn't even exist, it's supposed to be Anakin the last time he was actually Anakin...

And you're flipping out over a 'role' that's basically just shoved in at the end of Return of the Jedi...

Now if they altered the actually non-ghost Anakin (his head in the suit) to be Hayden Chirsitneinensen with a bunch of makeup on, then maybe I'd flip out and curse George Lucas with you...

Crash · 05-25-2005, 03:16 PM

i'd like if they did that

Professor S · 05-25-2005, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeathsHand

And you're flipping out over a 'role' that's basically just shoved in at the end of Return of the Jedi...

No, I'm flipping out over how Lucas has gone back and changed all of his original movies by adding in special effects, most of which look entirely out of place. Now every time I see the original movies, all I see is what he pointlessly added and it ruins the experience for me.

Changing the ending of ROTJ is just the final straw. I want to see the original movies that Lucas made and that I fell in love with as a kid, not his reworkings of them. For a rediculous comparison, its like Michaelangelo going back in his old age and adding arms on David or DaVinci adding eye brows to the Mona Lisa. That would be a desecration of their own work.

The main thing I'm angry at is that Lucas won't even give us the option. He won't let us buy the untouched originals, because he's arrogant enough to say to his consumer that we can only see what he wants us to see, regardless of which version we prefer.

Its infuriating, and once again I am a film purist so that is why I hate these
desecrated versions of the originals.

Teuthida · 05-25-2005, 07:03 PM

David...with no arms you say?

Didn't even realize Mona Lisa was without eyebrows till you mentioned it.

Anywhoo, if I had a phone that supported polyphonic ringtones mine would be the sounds that lizard makes. Oh how sweet that would be.

Professor S · 05-26-2005, 12:23 AM

Oh crap, thats right. David does have arms. It was Venus (I think) that had no arms, and if I remember correctly they were actually knocked off by accident or something, so lets just stick with the Mona Lisa comparison as that one actually makes sense.

Still, I believe my point has some validity, even if I'm a fine art philistine.

Crash · 05-27-2005, 11:53 AM

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MuGen · 05-27-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Oh crap, thats right. David does have arms. It was Venus (I think) that had no arms, and if I remember correctly they were actually knocked off by accident or something, so lets just stick with the Mona Lisa comparison as that one actually makes sense.

Still, I believe my point has some validity, even if I'm a fine art philistine.

It does have some validity to it, but there are some younger audiences that started the series on Episode I, and then bought IV, V, and VI to complete the story. For those people it's good to see the ANAKIN they saw, in Episode VI.

Besides, the real story behind it is that it is supposed to show the form of which they are last a Jedi. And seeing as Anakin turned the darkside at a young age, it's almost validated to show that young Anakin in the end of Episode VI.

If your a film purist, you should OWN the originals already and shouldn't have to worry about the remastered versions. But in any case, I understand your point of view. But for those who started on Episode I, it's better to see an Anakin you can recognize in Episode VI....

GameMaster · 05-27-2005, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

http://darthno.ytmnd.com/

http://darthdolenz.ytmnd.com/

http://unitedstatesofno.ytmnd.com/

http://cnnoooooooo.ytmnd.com/

OMFG!

Bube · 05-27-2005, 03:48 PM

[Spoiler ahead]

I just watched it today. I really think it's the best SW movie, with the dark theme and all.

But one thing I didn't understand is, why did the clones go dark? Something I missed in II, maybe? Sifo Dyas was dark as well? Anybody?

Dyne · 05-27-2005, 03:56 PM

The clones were under control of the empire. The Jedi were able to fight alongside, because beforehand, they were WITH the empire.

But then the emporer turned everyone against the jedi, namely the clones. It's like the US government turning the Army/Navy/Airforce against the FBI, or something.

MuGen · 05-27-2005, 04:07 PM

It wasn't the Empire... it was the Galactic Republic. The Emperor or.. Sideous created a plot that incriminated the JEDI for trying to overthrow the Republic, namely the Supreme Senator. If you heard once Anakin turned, he holo'd every Clone and said,

"Every single Jedi is now... an Enemy of the Republic"

And as the senate went into hiding, Sideous gained supreme power over the Republic, making it a Imperialist kingdom, thus Empire.