IGN Editors state whether they think the Killzone footage is real.

[Teuthida]

"What do IGN editors think. Is the Killzone video real? Will the game look like that?"

Jeremy Dunham - IGNPS2
"I don't think so. I think the only way the game will look like that is if they spent several more years in development and knew how to exploit the PlayStation 3 to its fullest. I have no doubt that they can produce cutscenes that good, but then again, the cutscene gave that away!"

Ed Lewis - IGNPS2
"We're probably going to see similar type graphics...hopefully. Because that's what they're aiming for, but...oh man. Hopefully. I mean, right now it's just a concept video. What will it be? I don't know. It's way too early to tell."

Ivan Sulic - IGNPS2
"**** no."

Juan Castro - IGNCube
"Yes. It will. On PS4... 2009. Or maybe 2015."

David Clayman - IGNXbox
"No. No. No. If that's the style of the game, it will look like that, but not at that level of quality. That had separate animations for every single movement. That is not a game. It was total CG. Those little things giveaway stuff like that real well."

Doug Perry - IGNXbox
"It doesn't look real to me, but it's what I want the game to look like and I hope. But I don't think the developer is capable of that, especially based on the first game."

Stephen Butts - IGNPC
"No. The video is real in the sense that it exists in this time continuum, but no, it does not reflect what the game will look like."

Dan Adams - IGNPC
"No."


EDIT: Oops. Should probably have gone in the E3 forum.

[Dark Samurai]

Even the PS2 editors are doubting it... I agree, that video was pure CG...

[MuGen]

Who cares if the editors are doubting it.

It is natual to fear what you do not know. They are only basing their opinion on the fact that "It looks too fluid and good to be real."

But NONE of us know what the PS3 is capable of... their goal was to make Cinematic CG graphics in real-time possible.

I'm not going to say the Killzone graphics were real, and I'm not going to say it wasn't real. But we have something to look forward to here, and we shouldn't shoot it down cuz it looks TOO good.

EDIT: A microsoft representative told GameSpot that the CELL chip doesn't even exist.... Do we believe him too? PS3, although unveiled... is still a mystery to many.

EDIT 2 And this thread is almost obviously trying to kill down the hype of the graphical power of PS3. This thread coming from someone who has discredited IGN in the past....

[GameMaster]

I'm hopeful so I'll say yes.

[Perfect Stu]

it's all over for PS3







*edit*

oh, wait

Comments from coder with actual PS3 experience regarding their demo (Heavenly Swords)





According to a coder on the team, the E3 footage is generated straight from their engine @ 1080p (frames were assembled after the fact to ensure a smooth framerate). He states that he fully expects the team to get the final game running @ 30+fps at that resolution (!).

The trailer was made by selecting a bunch of in-game moves/cool things, Then those frames making up those bits were output at 1080p from the engine. These are then all stuck together in a editing and post-processing package to look like a movie trailer.

But fundementally the 'renderer' itself was in-game, so you can see the shadow issues in certain frame where the in-game shadow map resolution optimiser doesn't do its job.

So in all fairness its not quite as black and white as either real-time or CGI...

Without saying anything regarding hardware etc. I will say everything you see is still early and we expect it to run alot better in future...

*Deano, can you honestly tell me that all those soldiers running around have their own AI and animations and such?*


Yep, they are simplified entities but still have basic AI (they can avoid things, stay in formation etc., they try and jump out of the way of the boozaka if you look carefully...) and use the normal animaton system, they are even the same models, the LOD system handles it transparently. They also turn into Havok ragdolls for a decent death.

Currently they are all on a single processor core, so the framerate drops pretty sharply at high number of entities... but this should go away once we have had a chance to work the machine properly...


whole thing here:

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=48465


bottom line:

PS3 tech demos were real time...PS3 trailers were a mixture of real-time engine and CG touch-ups. nothing is finished, nothing is playable, so that's the best representation they could give.

[Stray_Bullet]

I don't know what the PS3 is capable of, but I can safely say that developers are not capable of producing real-time CG.

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

Even the PS2 editors are doubting it... I agree, that video was pure CG...

This is my guess too.

*waits and sees*

[Vampyr]

Everything besides Epic and EA's stuff was CGI.