Revolution Rumors

gekko · 04-29-2005, 02:05 PM

Microsoft never tinkered or tested theirs before, and look how it turned out.

With a new generation comes a new slate. Microsoft had the huge advantage, because they planned for the system to be online, and developed the system around it. Upgradable system, hard drive. It was a smart move.

But they didn't start out so hot. They gradually figured out what works, and what doesn't. But they figured it out for everyone else too. It's just as easy for Nintendo or Sony to implement those ideas as it is Microsoft.

But that being said... attitudes don't change, and Microsoft will probably once again care about online play more than their competitors. But then there's talks about not having a hard drive, so maybe not.

It might just be me, but I'm not excited about the next generation in the least. Just give me Phantasy Star Universe and it'll hold me over for a few years.

Null · 04-29-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

Microsoft never tinkered or tested theirs before, and look how it turned out.

hell yes they did. Mirosoft has been doing stuff with online servers, services and games long before the xbox was around. They KNEW what they needed to get done and start off with. they made some mistakes, and got lucky one some stuff. but they had a good idea what to do well before hand.

And all this time while they've had xbox live. they've been thinking of more things they'd like it to have and do. meanwhile nintendo has not, even if nintendo completely copies xbox live, ms still has an advantage of having a longer time to think up new things for it.

thank you for bringing up the HD part tho, i forgot about that. thats the really iffy part for MS. if ms goes ahead and releases one with and one without a hd, thats spelling a lot of trouble for them in terms of online gaming.

I really just dont think, with nintendos mind set towards onling gaming, that they'll produce andything even close to xbox live and sonys. its like you have some person who really wants to make something. and another whos being forced to make something.

MuGen · 04-29-2005, 02:59 PM

You think MS will follow in Sony's path and not charge for LIVE?

Null · 04-29-2005, 03:34 PM

i'm pretty sure ms will still charge, my question is whether sony will or not.

gekko · 04-29-2005, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

its like you have some person who really wants to make something. and another whos being forced to make something.

Probably the best way I've ever seen it put.

MuGen · 04-29-2005, 03:44 PM

Well I guess MS charges cuz their LIVE is a better built online system, whilst Sony's just gives you access to play online. You could say XBOX LIVE is a ISP in a sense.

But I highly doubt Sony will charge for their service unless they make it as good as XBOX LIVE.

DarrenMcLeod · 04-29-2005, 03:56 PM

I think that Nintendo's could be comparable to XBox Live... I mean really... Microsoft did all the hard work of implementing a great system, and then the others just need to take what MS did, and tweak it as they see fit. Just like Sony did with PSP (take ideas from Gameboys, add better ones), and Microsoft did with Xbox itself (take ideas from Sega, Sony, Nintendo, and change what they want.)

Null · 04-29-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

Well I guess MS charges cuz their LIVE is a better built online system, whilst Sony's just gives you access to play online. You could say XBOX LIVE is a ISP in a sense.

But I highly doubt Sony will charge for their service unless they make it as good as XBOX LIVE.

sonys already said they plan on an xbox live type setup for ps3. that may mean its just got all the options but still free in an open network, but who knows.

the reason xbox live charges a fee is almost as you said its an isp of sorts, your logging into a MS closed network. with ms's servers hosting the games you play on. PS2 had an open network, where the users hosted the games and sony didnt have to setup the servers.

but thats also the reason why Sony was able to play FFX cross platform and xbox couldnt. xbox couldnt 'dial out' of its own network to others. it was stuck in its own.

i'm hoping for both this time have a cross between the 2. service as good as xbox live and better, however able to have the ability to play games cross platform. IE, playing games like Quake 4 online against PC players.

DarrenMcLeod · 04-29-2005, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

i'm hoping for both this time have a cross between the 2. service as good as xbox live and better, however able to have the ability to play games cross platform. IE, playing games like Quake 4 online against PC players.

You better hope there's a USB port for mouse and keyboard then, otherwise you'd get owned.

Null · 04-29-2005, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

You better hope there's a USB port for mouse and keyboard then, otherwise you'd get owned.

*looks around* perhaps you just didnt know who you were quoting :P im like the biggest PC fps person on this board. im the one always arguing how much better mouse/keyboard is. and my biggest wishlish on the new consoles is full mouse/keyboard support for every game.
I wouldnt be playin the console version, i'd be playin the PC AGAINST the people on console. I like to see the people who say you can be just as good with a controller play against the pc players. its a fun time.