Giving George W. Bush His Due on Democracy

[Blackmane]

Originally Posted by Jason1

I happened to be up near Chicago today and saw a gas station selling regular Unleaded gas for. $2.49 a gallon. TWO FORTY NINE A GALLON.

I thought we won the war in Iraq? Why is this happening?

I guarantee you if this Country had elected a President that isnt Republican, someone the rest of the world dosent hate, and someone who isnt in bed with the Oil Companies, that it never wouldve got this bad.

Gas is that high because of a lot of different reasons. Some have to do with instability in the Middle Eastern area which has some to do with the Iraq war, but it is also problems in more stable regions like Saudi Arabia. It also has to do with the fact that the oil supply curve can't keep going up exponentially, but that is too big a topic to get into now.

I don't understand. I thought most people didn't want us to be going into Iraq for oil because that is wrong. "Imperialism at its worst". Now, when gas is getting expensive, you ask why it isn't cheaper since we won the war? Ai yiy yiy...

You cannot guarantee anything about who would have been a better president. You think Kerry would have been more in tune with your needs? Just because he didn't have the oil companies backing him doesn't mean he wasn't in bed with his own special interests. Kerry had as much crap on his plate as Bush. At least Bush stands for something and, although he has his issues, I think he stands for something, and he's not afraid to stand up for those issues.

[MuGen]

This just proves that the cycle of life is actually evident. The fact that we're yet again arguing about Iraq War and Bush's foreign policies, proves it. Cycle has always been defined as a never-changing, repetition of events.

An article was posted about Bush and the accomplishments he's done amidst all of the scrutiny and left wing malice. Yet, we find a way to spark another argument about Goerge W. Bush. I'll have to agree with a lot of people in this thread.

Many people attack Bush's policies and his decision to go to war, and whether his intentions were genuine or for oil. But the simple factors of GAS prices will inevitably fabricate another momentous debate on WHY they are rising. As one of my colleagues said,
"I guess we didn't go to war for the oil...."

And Strangler, you have just earned my respect for looking beyond what is in front of your face. A great example is Patch Adams when a man saw 7 fingers, but they thought he was crazy.... Has he not said, "Look beyond the answer." I would not have understood him. Strangler, your play with numbers intrigues me and has greatly swayed my outlook on whether the war was for good or for worse. Of course WAR in general is summed up as a bad thing considering casualties and unnecessary bloodshed. But the way you put it, that there were a lot more casualties before the War w/ Iraq.... it totally makes sense.

A lot of our disputes are fueled by what the media feeds us. And we all have argued about what the media thrives on. We can't go face to face with our leaders and other leaders and get the scoop from them. We watch the news, and get our spin on things. Our debates are driven by what we know from news and media. So, in the end we all either are far left or far right, considering if we were all left or all right, the balance beam would topple over, and we certainly cannot have a world without balance.

Without war, there would be no peace. Without hate, there would be no love. So how would be define these things if there were none? Consider a world without war and total happiness. Would there still be a word PEACE? If there were a world without hate, would the word LOVE or LIKE still exist?

Disputes and debates are driven by the media today, and what we believe. There is no exact or accurate way of changing ones thinking....Sometimes I miss being a baby where ignorance was bliss.

Hard to say about life these days.