Nintendo is d00med, OH NOEZ

[Jonbo298]

Just because I have a preference means I'm still acting like a 10 year old? Wow, thanks

[Solid Snake]

Posted by Blackmane
I think I just like arguing with you, Null

Totally, you bring up some good points and you know your stuff.

+ rep for Null

You are the definetly the Master Debater. lol

[Teuthida]

Whee.

Never had a Nintendo console break except for my original GB after it "fell" out of a 10 story building.

My Sony TV only lasted 25 years. Pathetic.

Never owned any hardware made by Microsoft but I did "abuse" my roommate's Xbox when he wasn't there. Quite durable indeed.


If Nintendo were to be a 2nd party I would rather have them develop for Microsoft. 25 years for a TV just doesn't cut it...

[Crash]

I've said this many times... you can compare nintendo to the Mac... superior but have a cult like fan base... not going anywhere at anytime...


sony is like microsoft windows (pc) inferior technology and games (in my opinion) but sells more because the world is sold on ps2...

i play my xbox the most probably, like more games on the cube and they wont ever catch up to sony, but nintendo will never drop hardware.....


in other news the new cell chip for the PS3 is crap.... sony admitted it themselves:

Meanwhile, Nanako Kato, official spokeswoman of the Sony Computer Entertainment headquarters in Japan, was careful to cut through the hype created by the Cell Chip announcement.

“The details of Cell announced at ISSCC are based on the full specs of the chip. Cell is the broadband processor used for a wide number of applications, and will be optimized according to the needs of each application,” she told INQ7.net.

Asked to comment on how powerful a Cell processor the PS3 will be able to accommodate, she replied: “The performance of Cell announced at this time may not equal the performance of SCE’s next-generation computer entertainment system. At this point in time, it is too premature to discuss our next system. We will announce the details in due course.” lol_2.gif

Ironically, both the PS3 and the next-generation console of its closest rival, Microsoft, will make use of IBM’s processor technology, though of course the next Xbox won’t be powered by the Cell chip. Microsoft has yet to unveil the specs of the successor to the Xbox, which has been code-named Xenon (and sometimes referred to as Xbox 2 or even Xbox 360). Some of these alleged “official documents” leaked on the Net have claimed that Xenon will be powered by three IBM 64-bit processors (which ironically are supposed to be the same type of chips that power Apple’s G5 PowerMac).

Asked to compare the IBM chips that will be used for the PS3 and Xbox 2, IBM Fellow Kahle replied: “Microsoft announced that it has licensed leading-edge semiconductor processor technology from IBM for use in future Xbox products and services to be announced at a later date. No other details have been disclosed and we cannot compare Cell to any custom work for Microsoft.”

translation: "cell chip isn't going to be able to work the way we want it to in the PS3... We suck hardcore"

[Null]

[Jonbo298]

Didnt Sony hype cell to be eleventy billion times faster then any PC Processor (I'm being sarcastic, OK?)

But oh well. Every company is gonna have to cut corners from their hype

[Blackmane]

Hmmm, interesting, but no unexpected.

You have to think. Would Sony be willing to pay so much money to get the very best Cell chip? It is probably too costly to do that, so they are going to go with a good, economic version. It makes sense.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

If you're dropping down the cash for every single platform out there, I don't think money is a big concern for you.

It took me a very long time to collect every system. I just got my Xbox back in January, so I havn't had all three systems for very long. I got a GCN for Christmas (it was my very first console for this generation), and then I saved up and bought a PS2 the summer following, and then a couple years later got the Box. I'm not rich, I just manage my money well enough so that I can eventually get the things I want. I would be much happier if I could have put that money I spent on a GCN into buying more games for the other two systems.

I find GC controller most comfortable, PS2 controller most versatile, XBOX controller....is good for halo.

Good for you. That's really a matter of personal opinion, I have nothing against the GCN controller, it just doesn't seem to be really GREAT for anything.

Nintendo takes risks left and right if they feel it would add enjoyment. You can't tell me that Pikmin and cel shading Zelda were results of deciding what is best for profit.

I said that Nintendo was in it for the money (which they are), but in no way did I say they were doing a good job of it. It's easy to see they are being stupid about their marketing. They make their system look like a purple purse, they REFUSE to listen to their fans by designing a cel shaded Zelda and not going online. If they aren't trying to please us, then what the hell are they doing? Why do they want to make things that their fans don't want?

They are definatly in it for the money, they just aren't being smart about it. Take their memory cards for example. It took them FOREVER just to release a memory card with over a 1000 blocks on it, and by then it was too late. We already had a crap load of their other measly memory cards. Are you saying that things like small memory cards are an innovation as well? I think Nintendo has fallen into the idea that if they make ANYTHING different, for better or worse, they are being innovative.

Wow. Let's see.

Xbox Live and Eye Toy have both been done on PC for as long ages and ages. It can hardly be considered "innovative". The only thing innovative about Xbox Live was the timing.

Who made Game and Watch? And touch screen and wireless networking and microphone are more than rehashing.

You do know the definition of the word "innovative", right? It means "new" and "different". PC may have had online gaming and an eye toy product (I'm not sure about the latter, I'm just taking your word for it), but a CONSOLE didn't, therefore it is NEW. The dreamcast was online, but never before had a company designed such a powerful online system that brought all gamers together and unified the monthly fees. Even PC's havn't done something like that, where you pay one fee and can play all your games online. Xbox Live was innovative, and so was the Eye Toy.

And so what if Nintendo made Game and Watch? They made it a LONG TIME AGO. You can't remake something that you did a long time ago and was innovative at the time and STILL call it innovative. The touch screen thing is cool, and it is innovative, I'll give you that, but it's nothing ground breaking.

Finally, no negative connotations to the idea of being with Microsoft?

One word: Rare.

Rare does as Rare wants. Microsoft didn't change that.