I thought that I was good at Math

[Typhoid]

But then....


whats after a googolplex?


You have to think, if Numbers never end, why are there not a never ending stream of words for the neverending numbers?

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

But then....


whats after a googolplex?


You have to think, if Numbers never end, why are there not a never ending stream of words for the neverending numbers?

It's called "infinite".

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

It's called "infinite".

Then why stop at "Googolplex"?

Why that one?


Why not stop at Googol? Or Billion? Or Trillion?

[Crash]

This is crashette: Does anyone know if their are any trillionaires in the world, I mean we have people like Bill gates who are billionaires.......

[Blackmane]

No, I think the richest person in the world is worth like 100 billion. I think it's the CEO of WalMart

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by Crash

This is crashette: Does anyone know if their are any trillionaires in the world, I mean we have people like Bill gates who are billionaires.......

Nah, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he is only worth 40 Billion or so. Obviously a lot, but the only things that have trillions of dollars are entire countries/governments.

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

Nah, Bill Gates is the richest man in the world and he is only worth 40 Billion or so. Obviously a lot, but the only things that have trillions of dollars are entire countries/governments.

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it?

[KillerGremlin]

Infinity, The Truth About (Real)
What Is It?

In some circumstances, infinity (to be algebraically represented in this article by the letter "I") can be used as a number:

in order to engineer a formula,
to extract and display some theory, or
to fill some empty space on a text book.
However, in most cases, it makes a very bad number, and is mostly used as a concept. The reason for this is that it isn't really a number.

Take the following rules:

Infinity divided by a finite number is infinite (I / f = I);
Any finite number divided by infinity is a number infinitesimally larger than, but never equal to, zero (f / I = 1 / I);
Infinity divided by infinity is one (I / I = 1),
or in fact any other positive number (I / I = and so on...);
Infinity multiplied by zero (no infinity) is zero (I * 0 = 0);
Infinity divided by a positive finite number is infinity (I / +f = I);
Infinity divided by a negative finite number is minus infinity (I / -f = -I);
Infinity divided by zero is not possible;
Infinity plus infinity is infinity (I + I = I);
Zero divided by infinity (nothing divided into infinity) equals zero (0 / I = 0);
Infinity plus a finite number is infinity (I + f = I);
Infinity minus a finite number is infinity (I - f = I); but
Infinity minus infinity, due to the nature of infinity, can be zero, infinity, or minus infinity (I - I = -I, 0, I).
In some of these respects it appears to be a number; it shares some of the same properties. Unfortunately, when you start using it as a number, you experience a few problems. You might be thinking, so why isn't it a number? Well, if it is, then it is each and every imaginable and unimaginable number, while being none of them. If you can define a number, it isn't infinity. Therefore, infinity is not a number.

Perhaps then, it is lots of numbers. Perhaps a variable? Well, this is an interesting point to consider, but again, any number you might apply to infinity, is quite obviously not infinity. It doesn't matter how many numbers you apply to it, if they are numerable, they are not infinity.

Can you calculate it? Well, considering the nature of infinity, no. As soon as you apply a value to infinity, you find that it isn't. Pick a number; you can always add one more.

So what can you use it for? In most cases, people use infinity to replace a number that is so large, they can't be bothered to work it out. Infinity is usually applied to the boundless limits of space, and time. The theory being that if you go far enough in space, you can go further [1], and time is just as bad.

The closest way to experience infinity is to buy an "auto-reverse" tape recorder, fix it to a reliable power source, and never turn it off. Of course, you will never really experience infinity this way, as you will eventually die, the tape will break, the machine will break, or the power source will die [2].

Curiosities
Here follows a couple of examples of how one might happily misuse infinity for their own amusement, cheerfully putting a few rules to one side:

If I + I = I and I + 2 = I
Then I + I = I + 2
So I = I + 2 - I
Then I = 2

But in the same spirit you could also say that:

Since I + 2 = I and I - 4 = I
Then I + 2 = I - 4
So 2 + 4 = 0
Then 2 = -4

Which is completely absurd, and is therefore the basis of most of the most advanced forms of modern creative accounting. In fact, all this proves is that infinity is most definitely not a constant value, and trying to use it as one can cause all manner of problems. Trying to fiddle with the rules of infinity can be hazardous to your health.

http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/8R69.html

There you go, some insight on infinity. I'm going to get a better source though...

http://www.ping.be/~ping1339/sequences.htm <----super technical site about infinity.

[Seth]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it?

How could he have surpassed billy if it comes out as less when converted? Either he did or didn't. The world market doesn't hinge on the US dollar. anyway, blah




I have a question!!!


How much is the catholic church worth? I'd guess over a trillion with all their real estate and such. But, I've never actually heard a figure put forth so it's all just musing.

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Last year, a classmate said that the founder/owner of Ikea surpassed Gates wealth. Since he's from Sweden, maybe it comes out to be less when you convert it?

This is true. But I'm sure it comes out as more when you convert it.

[Jonbo298]

Someday a Googolplex will mean something

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

It's called "infinite".

Please......inifinity is a concept, not a number.

For any number with more then 100 consecutive zeros, you would just use scientific notations. 1x10E100 and so forth. Infinity can't be described in terms of numbers, because infinity is a concept, not an actual number. Infinity has a name, it is infinity.

I mean, consider that there are more infinite numbers between 0 and 1 then between 1 and infinity. Crazy stuff.

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I mean, consider that there are more infinite numbers between 0 and 1 then between 1 and infinity. Crazy stuff.

There are a set number of definite numbers between 0 and 1.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

There are a set number of definite numbers between 0 and 1.

No, there isnt.


You can break the decimals down into forever.

No matter how long you go, each number can still be a 9, and it wouldnt technically be a whole number yet.

There are the same amount of numbers inbetween each number, than there are in existance.


I think that made sense. *crosses fingers*

[KillerGremlin]

Yeah, Typhoid has it down. Think about it.

0 and 1
0, .5, 1
0, .5, .25, 1
0, .5, .25, .125, 1

The series goes on infinitely. You can break it down however you want, there is an infinite set of numbers between 0 and 1.

Edit: I'm not sure about the last part of your post though. If I recall, there are more numbers between 0 and 1 then there are between 0 and infinity, but I don't know what type of numbers were being used, ie. real numbers, ect.

I'm going to consult google and get back to this thread.