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			12-18-2004, 10:56 AM
			
							
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				So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh? 
			
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LoZ: Doesn't specify age (probably a year or two younger than 16) 
AoL: 16 
ALttP:  Doesn't specify age.  Link is referred to as "kid," but that just means the person talking to Link is older than Link. 
LA: Doesn't specify age. 
OoT: Link's age is never actually specified.  It is generall accepted, however, that we see Link in his approximately 10th and 17th years (or somewhere around there). 
MM:  Same as OoT.  However, we only see him in his "10th" year. 
Oracles: Doesn't specify age.  Official art seems to portray Link in his early to mid teens. 
TWW: Doesn't specify age.  Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link.
 
So...  They might not have all been "kid" Link.
 
Although I don't really care which one I'm playing...
 
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			12-18-2004, 07:38 PM
			
							
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		I'll agvree with the idea of a mature Link over a "grittier" Link.  I would just like to see some of the themes, emotions and problems grow up a little. 
 
And no one says that you can't change it right back.  there have been many Links over the years, as Link1130 pointed out. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-19-2004, 02:25 AM
			
							
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		Changing the basic storyline a bit? Sure, ok. I'd like that. Making Link more "grown-up" and having deeper emotion in the game? Ok, that's not a terrible idea. 
 
But let's not lose focus of what IGN is saying here. It would have been one thing if they had proposed to have Link falling in love (which he has never done before) or crying or having Zelda herself as a kickass, playable character (I want Sheik!). Had they proposed any of those ideas, I think the vast majority of Zelda fans here wouldn't have a problem with it. 
 
But IGN is dreaming of Link on a quest for Ganondorf's death to avenge Zelda's murder. I don't even mind the idea of Zelda getting killed. But Link getting enraged and swearing revenge? Didn't IGN just say that Prince of Persia 2 tries way too hard to go for the gritty look? 
 
Besides, that's not gritty or mature. It's just bloody. Bloody does not necessarily mean mature (something I suspect IGN generally doesn't understand). In any case, their proposed storyline is puerile and banal. Instead of the game having the plot of a typical fantasy story, it now has the plot of...a typical action movie. Excuse me if I fail to be excited. 
 
I'm glad IGN isn't in control of any of the three console manufacturers because it's pretty clear that they would have no idea what they're doing. Hell, it seems that they don't even have any idea of what they want to begin with. Although I'm guessing that they would probably read my Zelda fic and think that it's exactly the kind of story Zelda should be (here's a hint: not one of my readers came away with that conclusion by the end). 
 
Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. Get Zelda into a marriage of state. Have racial prejudice. Now that's a Zelda game I would like to play. But please, let's not turn Link into yet another dark anti-hero who "smolders with generic rage" as Penny-Arcade put it so nicely. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-20-2004, 10:24 AM
			
							
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				Changing the basic storyline a bit? Sure, ok. I'd like that. Making Link more "grown-up" and having deeper emotion in the game? Ok, that's not a terrible idea. 
 
But let's not lose focus of what IGN is saying here. It would have been one thing if they had proposed to have Link falling in love (which he has never done before) or crying or having Zelda herself as a kickass, playable character (I want Sheik!). Had they proposed any of those ideas, I think the vast majority of Zelda fans here wouldn't have a problem with it. 
 
But IGN is dreaming of Link on a quest for Ganondorf's death to avenge Zelda's murder. I don't even mind the idea of Zelda getting killed. But Link getting enraged and swearing revenge? Didn't IGN just say that Prince of Persia 2 tries way too hard to go for the gritty look? 
 
Besides, that's not gritty or mature. It's just bloody. Bloody does not necessarily mean mature (something I suspect IGN generally doesn't understand). In any case, their proposed storyline is puerile and banal. Instead of the game having the plot of a typical fantasy story, it now has the plot of...a typical action movie. Excuse me if I fail to be excited. 
 
I'm glad IGN isn't in control of any of the three console manufacturers because it's pretty clear that they would have no idea what they're doing. Hell, it seems that they don't even have any idea of what they want to begin with. Although I'm guessing that they would probably read my Zelda fic and think that it's exactly the kind of story Zelda should be (here's a hint: not one of my readers came away with that conclusion by the end). 
 
Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. Get Zelda into a marriage of state. Have racial prejudice. Now that's a Zelda game I would like to play. But please, let's not turn Link into yet another dark anti-hero who "smolders with generic rage" as Penny-Arcade put it so nicely. 
			
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			12-20-2004, 04:42 PM
			
							
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				Maybe it's just me but to have a dark twisted world with Link as a kid would be exemplary.  If anyone has ever read Jhonen Vasquez's Squee or even that yet to be released game, Psychonauts, through a kid's eyes things can be even more scary without losing any of the fun. 
			
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 http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/eviltwin/index.html 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			12-22-2004, 12:26 PM
			
							
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				Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. 
			
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Hey, I like the idea of armies.  Not to make it too large of a part of the storyline (because Link has always pretty much worked on his own, aside from a little help from the Sages).  But it could definately be cool to see some big army fighting going on.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-22-2004, 04:13 PM
			
							
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		Yeah I've probably said that a few years ago.  
Have an army storm Ganon's castle and let the player either help fight in the war, or sneak into the back of the castle.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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			12-19-2004, 02:15 AM
			
							
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				TWW: Doesn't specify age.  Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link. 
 
 
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 They did mention that he had "come of age." I'd assume under jewish traditions that he'd be 13.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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