IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game

[Vampyr]

I take back what I said about making Zelda grittier, it was a very bad idea, and I like what DM said better. Making it a grittier game would completely ruin the feeling of the game that I have come to love, which I realized a few hours after making my post. Zelda has always been fun for me because of the light heartedness style of it.

It would be alright if a few dungeons had a gritty and evil feel to them, but that's about it.

And GM, mature is the right word. DM doesnt want things to be darker, he wants it to be more mature. He wants the storyline and characters to be things that you need at least half a brain to understand. He wants it to have an epic feel that you need a more mature mind to understand.

And they are no doubt different links. For a very long time I thought they were the same link, but then I was reading my OoT players guide and it told me otherwise. Like GM I felt very dissapointed at first...but I don't really mind so much. From what I've read the Link and Zelda in every game are decedents of the original Link and Zelda, though I'm not sure which game is set in the earliest time period. Though I do believe that it is the same gannon every time, that just seems like it makes sense.

[Stonecutter]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

What? IGN wants Nintendo to actually do something new and *shudder* CREATIVE with their franchises instead of just spitting out the same tired plot over and over again???

THE HORROR!! KILL THOSE DIRTY FILTHY BASTARDS!!!

*straps dynamite to his chest and runs towards San Fran*

I agree.

[Teuthida]

*Response based on first two pages because frankly got sick of reading anymore of it.

What's with everyone wanting to banish kid Link to the pits of hell? You've only played as "adult link" (adult? wasn't he only 17 anyway?) once in an actual Zelda game and not even for the entire time. So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh? They would have been so much better if he was a few years older huh? and meaner? and more "is Link gonna have to choke a bitch?" Bah.

[Jonbo298]

Link choking a bitch, how interesting

But I'll clarify my grittier comment. The new Zelda for the 'Cube basically looks like how most people vision a Zelda game in 3D which is nice. WW was looking at Link's life from a kid's perspective. Kid's don't see dark gritty stuff, more "happy care free" things. But the new one is more teen/adultish Link so he sees things through his eyes differently.

[Teuthida]

Maybe it's just me but to have a dark twisted world with Link as a kid would be exemplary. If anyone has ever read Jhonen Vasquez's Squee or even that yet to be released game, Psychonauts, through a kid's eyes things can be even more scary without losing any of the fun.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by Danchastu

So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh?

LoZ: Doesn't specify age (probably a year or two younger than 16)
AoL: 16
ALttP: Doesn't specify age. Link is referred to as "kid," but that just means the person talking to Link is older than Link.
LA: Doesn't specify age.
OoT: Link's age is never actually specified. It is generall accepted, however, that we see Link in his approximately 10th and 17th years (or somewhere around there).
MM: Same as OoT. However, we only see him in his "10th" year.
Oracles: Doesn't specify age. Official art seems to portray Link in his early to mid teens.
TWW: Doesn't specify age. Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link.


So... They might not have all been "kid" Link.

Although I don't really care which one I'm playing...

<-- nerd


*shrugs and walks away*

[Professor S]

I'll agvree with the idea of a mature Link over a "grittier" Link. I would just like to see some of the themes, emotions and problems grow up a little.

And no one says that you can't change it right back. there have been many Links over the years, as Link1130 pointed out.

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by Link1130

TWW: Doesn't specify age. Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link.


*shrugs and walks away*

They did mention that he had "come of age." I'd assume under jewish traditions that he'd be 13.

[Xantar]

Changing the basic storyline a bit? Sure, ok. I'd like that. Making Link more "grown-up" and having deeper emotion in the game? Ok, that's not a terrible idea.

But let's not lose focus of what IGN is saying here. It would have been one thing if they had proposed to have Link falling in love (which he has never done before) or crying or having Zelda herself as a kickass, playable character (I want Sheik!). Had they proposed any of those ideas, I think the vast majority of Zelda fans here wouldn't have a problem with it.

But IGN is dreaming of Link on a quest for Ganondorf's death to avenge Zelda's murder. I don't even mind the idea of Zelda getting killed. But Link getting enraged and swearing revenge? Didn't IGN just say that Prince of Persia 2 tries way too hard to go for the gritty look?

Besides, that's not gritty or mature. It's just bloody. Bloody does not necessarily mean mature (something I suspect IGN generally doesn't understand). In any case, their proposed storyline is puerile and banal. Instead of the game having the plot of a typical fantasy story, it now has the plot of...a typical action movie. Excuse me if I fail to be excited.

I'm glad IGN isn't in control of any of the three console manufacturers because it's pretty clear that they would have no idea what they're doing. Hell, it seems that they don't even have any idea of what they want to begin with. Although I'm guessing that they would probably read my Zelda fic and think that it's exactly the kind of story Zelda should be (here's a hint: not one of my readers came away with that conclusion by the end).

Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. Get Zelda into a marriage of state. Have racial prejudice. Now that's a Zelda game I would like to play. But please, let's not turn Link into yet another dark anti-hero who "smolders with generic rage" as Penny-Arcade put it so nicely.

[fingersman]

Originally Posted by Xantar

Changing the basic storyline a bit? Sure, ok. I'd like that. Making Link more "grown-up" and having deeper emotion in the game? Ok, that's not a terrible idea.

But let's not lose focus of what IGN is saying here. It would have been one thing if they had proposed to have Link falling in love (which he has never done before) or crying or having Zelda herself as a kickass, playable character (I want Sheik!). Had they proposed any of those ideas, I think the vast majority of Zelda fans here wouldn't have a problem with it.

But IGN is dreaming of Link on a quest for Ganondorf's death to avenge Zelda's murder. I don't even mind the idea of Zelda getting killed. But Link getting enraged and swearing revenge? Didn't IGN just say that Prince of Persia 2 tries way too hard to go for the gritty look?

Besides, that's not gritty or mature. It's just bloody. Bloody does not necessarily mean mature (something I suspect IGN generally doesn't understand). In any case, their proposed storyline is puerile and banal. Instead of the game having the plot of a typical fantasy story, it now has the plot of...a typical action movie. Excuse me if I fail to be excited.

I'm glad IGN isn't in control of any of the three console manufacturers because it's pretty clear that they would have no idea what they're doing. Hell, it seems that they don't even have any idea of what they want to begin with. Although I'm guessing that they would probably read my Zelda fic and think that it's exactly the kind of story Zelda should be (here's a hint: not one of my readers came away with that conclusion by the end).

Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too. Get Zelda into a marriage of state. Have racial prejudice. Now that's a Zelda game I would like to play. But please, let's not turn Link into yet another dark anti-hero who "smolders with generic rage" as Penny-Arcade put it so nicely.

You're still alive?
Ahhhhhh it's so nice to read a post from Xanny again

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Danchastu

Maybe it's just me but to have a dark twisted world with Link as a kid would be exemplary. If anyone has ever read Jhonen Vasquez's Squee or even that yet to be released game, Psychonauts, through a kid's eyes things can be even more scary without losing any of the fun.

Sometimes I wish Ubisoft didn't cancel the American release for Evil Twin. Pardon the rudeness of my expression, but that game looked like it was going to f*cking rock. Too bad it didn't get the popularity it deserved.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/eviltwin/index.html

[DimHalo]

Originally Posted by Xantar

Now, if Zelda were recast in the mold of Lord of the Rings, that's something I could get behind. Big armies? Let's go for it. Let's throw in some politics, too.

Hey, I like the idea of armies. Not to make it too large of a part of the storyline (because Link has always pretty much worked on his own, aside from a little help from the Sages). But it could definately be cool to see some big army fighting going on.

[Canyarion]

Yeah I've probably said that a few years ago.
Have an army storm Ganon's castle and let the player either help fight in the war, or sneak into the back of the castle.