IGN wants Zelda murdered in Revolution Zelda Game

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

Do you have any point to your life other than ridiculing democrats and Nintendo fans? I'm starting think not.

Yes, I spend my whole life rediculing democrats and Nintendo fans, especially considering I have barely mentioned politics since the election and I almost never post in the Nintendo forum.

If you're going to attack me, at least try and make sense when you do. I actually find the fact that you take every opportunity you can to blow what I say way out of proportion and insult me quite funny.

And yes, I did realize that IGN was using a bit of sarcasm, but my post was in response to the other post on this thread, which I thought was quite obvious. Apparently not.

As for Nintendo franchises, I have no problem with the gameplay. I loved Windwaker, but the plot was still pretty much the same thing. Same with most Mario games (I'm not saying they should change Mario games since there's not much you can do with a plumber fighting turtles) and even Metroid got a huge gameplay makeover but the story remained no different (and barely existant).

With Zelda you have the ability to take a different slant on a beloved character if just for one game. With a more realistic appearance you could make the game a little grittier and a bit darker. I'm not saying that he should be going around murdering whomever he chooses and banging hookers in his stolen car, but maybe he could actually look a little pissed when he's dicing up one of Ganon's minions.

A gritty look here, a plot twist there and a couple of cutscene's could add a lot to an already great franchise.

[Dyne]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

And yes, I did realize that IGN was using a bit of sarcasm, but my post was in response to the other post on this thread, which I thought was quite obvious. Apparently not.

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You will do the whole forum a service by reading this book.

[Professor S]

Looks like a brilliant work of literature to me.

Would anyone like to comment on my comments abouta new direction for Zelda, instead of taking weak cheapshots at me? That would be nice.

EDIT: I actually thought the Link banging a hooker in a stolen car bit was pretty funny, DAMMIT!

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Looks like a brilliant work of literature to me.

Would anyone like to comment on my comments abouta new direction for Zelda, instead of taking weak cheapshots at me? That would be nice.

I'll attempt.

Originally Posted by Le Strangér

I'm not saying they should change Mario games since there's not much you can do with a plumber fighting turtles

So what can they change to a game based on Saving a Princess? Kill the Princess? Yes...thats a sure fire way to make sure you have future games.

Zelda games work. Bitch all you want about it not being a good game, about any game being a good game. But how many have they made? Alot? So that means it has to be partially successfull correct?

I love Zelda games. I've loved EVERY Zelda game ever made. They are all awesome. OoT was my favourite, I will admit, and I have beaten it a whopping 30 times.

I dont see the big deal about not changing the basic storyline.

Its not the same game.

Its not a sequal.

In fact, Im pretty sure in every game, it has NOTHING to do with any of the other ones.

If you dont like it, fine, dont complain. Will the creators magically wonder what the people on GT are saying about hteir game? No. If you dont like it, there is one simple step: Don't buy it. Than we all win.

Originally Posted by El Stranglero

With Zelda you have the ability to take a different slant on a beloved character if just for one game. With a more realistic appearance you could make the game a little grittier and a bit darker. I'm not saying that he should be going around murdering whomever he chooses and banging hookers in his stoen car, but maybe he could actually look a little pissed when he's dicing up one of Ganon's minions.

A gritty look here, a plot twist there and a couple of cutscene's could add a lot to an already great franchise.

Im not trying to be funny here or anything...but did I miss the part in any review for Zelda where they said their arnt any plot twists, where it said the game isnt dark, and where it said his face has no emotion?

I rmemeber reading that this is THE darkest Zelda game. So there goes point number 2.

Every Zelda game has some sort of little tiny twist, no matter how miniscule it is...so there goes point numero uno.

And they have the capability to do the emotion on the face, I dont know if they will or not, so point 3, undoubtedly remains in tact.

But bottom line, Every Zelda game is different. Every one. Sure the basis is the same, Kill Gannon(dorf) and save Zelda. But you let Mario of of the hook, so why cant you let Link off huh? Right...because he isnt a plumber.

And lets compare Mario and Zelda ok?

Mario
------

-Plumber
-Save Princess


Link
----------
-Whatever he is in that game...
-Save Princess


Oh, whats this? The basis of the game is the same!!?!?!

*Shock*

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I'll attempt.

You always do attempt.

So what can they change to a game based on Saving a Princess? Kill the Princess? Yes...thats a sure fire way to make sure you have future games.

Did I say they should kill the Princess? Please point out where I said that. Oh thats right, I didn't. I said they should maybe take the series in a darker path for at least one game. Thanks for reading.

Zelda games work. Bitch all you want about it not being a good game, about any game being a good game. But how many have they made? Alot? So that means it has to be partially successfull correct?

Did I say I didn't like the Zelda series? Please point out where I said that. Oh thats right, I didn't. In fact I believe I said I LOVED Windwaker and even call the franchise "great". Thanks for reading.

I love Zelda games. I've loved EVERY Zelda game ever made. They are all awesome. OoT was my favourite, I will admit, and I have beaten it a whopping 30 times.

I love Chef Boyardee Beef Ravioli. I've loved EVERY can I've ever eaten. That doesn't mean that every once in a while I wouldn't like an Overstuffed or *shock* maybe even a Spaghetti-O every once in a while. Variety is good, even in the Chef Boyardee franchise.

I dont see the big deal about not changing the basic storyline.

Its not the same game.

Its not a sequal.

In fact, Im pretty sure in every game, it has NOTHING to do with any of the other ones.

(This section is for Link 1130 also)To me the lack of variety is a problem. Nintendo already has its loyal Zelda fans who will buy the game no matter what. There are also a lot of former Nintendophiles, such as myself, who once worshipped at the alter of their 8-bit box who have become disenfranchised by Nintendo not taking any chances with their most beloved franchises. A darker Link and Zelda game, which thankfully it looks like their attempting to do, would do a lot to pique our interest again.

[/quote]If you dont like it, fine, dont complain. Will the creators magically wonder what the people on GT are saying about hteir game? No. If you dont like it, there is one simple step: Don't buy it. Than we all win.[/quote]

This is a FORUM. That means that opinions that don't agree with you are welcome. Try and absorb that little fact sometime

Im not trying to be funny here or anything...but did I miss the part in any review for Zelda where they said their arnt any plot twists, where it said the game isnt dark, and where it said his face has no emotion?

I wasn't responding to the article, as I mentioned before, I responded to member's reactions to that article and how so many Nintendo fans seem unwilling to accept any serious story changes in the Holy Trinity of Nintendo (Mario, Zelda and Metroid). You may disagree with me on the stubborness that I see, but thats your right to do so.

Every Zelda game has some sort of little tiny twist, no matter how miniscule it is...so there goes point numero uno.

Which revolves around Ganon kidnapping Zelda... nice try.

And they have the capability to do the emotion on the face, I dont know if they will or not, so point 3, undoubtedly remains in tact.

Typhoid, please try and recognize hyperbole. I was exagerrating to make a point. Even in Windwaker Link made an angry face when attacking someone. My point was that for a series that is violence based it always has a happy-go-lucky feel about it even when you're slicing up the enemy. This new darker Zelda might be a nice change.

But bottom line, Every Zelda game is different. Every one. Sure the basis is the same, Kill Gannon(dorf) and save Zelda. But you let Mario of of the hook, so why cant you let Link off huh? Right...because he isnt a plumber.

What the hell are you talking about? My whole point is that the story doesn't change even when the gameplay does change. I even explicitly said this when I talked about Metroid. Did you read my post or just skim it once you saw "The Strangler" wrote it and then started writing?

And lets compare Mario and Zelda ok?

Mario
------

-Plumber
-Save Princess


Link
----------
-Whatever he is in that game...
-Save Princess


Oh, whats this? The basis of the game is the same!!?!?!

*Shock*

My point here was that there are more opportunities to change Zelda since in its heart it is a fantasy game based on sword and sorcery. Theres a lot that can be done with this.

Meanwhile Mario is a plumber who gets sucked down the drain into a world ruled by turtles who captured a princess. That really doesn't give you much room to work with, now does it? They tried once, and it led to a really bad movie. I wouldn't want to put anyone through that again.

[Neo]

You know the chicken guy from OoT who gives you the bottle? I would very much like it if Link ran him through with his sword and then stuffed a chicken beak up his pee hole.

And Typhoid, that's like the coolest avatar ever.

[Vampyr]

I like the way that they thought getting revenge was more original than saving the princess.

A grittier zelda game would be cool, though, and it would have to be done with adult link. Kid Link is pretty much dead now...and may he rot. Just make link a little grizzlier looking (five o'clock shadow anyone? There is no way he runs around for days and doesn't get a little bit of one.) And they should throw in some cool lighting effects that add's some shadows to the world.

That's merely an option though...Zelda would be just as cool without all that stuff, it just depends on what style you are going for. I play zelda for high adventure, action, puzzles, unforgettable characters, and yes, story. I love the storyline in the Zelda games the way they are. The foundation is built more on character than plot, and that's what we all get from the game, though the plot is excellent as well. I loved the story in Wind Waker...I thought it was one of the coolest ones ever in a Zelda game, and the explanation of how the world existed, and the whole thing about a "new Hyrule" fascinated me.

And I am appalled that so many people hated collecting the triforce...don't you guys remember how back in OoT everyone WANTED to be able to get it? I loved getting all the pieces...I hadn't done that since the NES game.

[DeathsHand]

I'm not sure if they should kill Zelda off, but I've been saying this for awhile, they should make a game that sorta takes place in a time of disorder and despair in hyrule... And not because gannon took over and is ruling everything... Just have there be conflict between the races and crap...

Hard times... Not the kind of time when you walk into a town and everyone has a huge-ass smile on their face and are prancing around town instead of actually working...

Like those damn carpenters...

Killing Zelda? I dunno about that...

About triforce hunting, yes I missed the triforce in OoT... however, in WW it was turned into just a very boring hunt...

Back in Zelda 1, each dungeon housed 1 piece... You had to fight through enemies, find your way through the 'maze', then destroy the boss...

In WW, you got maps... Which in turn you had to pay a fortune to decipher... Then simply travel over the huge ocean doing nothing except picking them out of the ocean...

[Jonbo298]

Yeah, I would like to see a more grittier Zelda which I think the next Zelda on the 'Cube is gonna provide. Hopefully for the Revolution version of Zelda, there are many dungeons, enemies, etc..so it feels like an epic quest that hopefully isn't a boring mind quest

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Yeah, I would like to see a more grittier Zelda which I think the next Zelda on the 'Cube is gonna provide. Hopefully for the Revolution version of Zelda, there are many dungeons, enemies, etc..so it feels like an epic quest that hopefully isn't a boring mind quest

I dont know though.....Epic Mind Quests are what most Zelda's are all about.

They are mental quizzes, and they rack your brain because you have to remmeber where you saw Person A, because Person C says Person B wants you to talk to Person A.

A grittier Zelda, I wouldnt be opposed to though, like, Darker...but im not pushing for it with full force however.

And I agree, they should banish Kid Link to the pits of hell.

[DimHalo]

They can't change Zelda too much or they'll lose some die-hard fans. I know they would lose my mom (who has been a Zelda player since the beginning) and depending on how much "grittier" it gets, they might lose me too. And I know there are a lot of fans like my mom and I.

[Dylflon]

I like Strangler's idea of a grittier Zelda game. I'm not a big fan of the series (though I do acknowledge that the games are good) but if they made the whole thing a bit darker it would definently have a bit more drawing power for me. I'm no saying totally revamp the character, but just let him grow up or show some damn emotion for once.

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

And yes, I did realize that IGN was using a bit of sarcasm, but my post was in response to the other post on this thread, which I thought was quite obvious. Apparently not.

And I would have thought it sorely obvious that I was referring to the posts, and not your opinion on what IGN said.

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

And while they probably meant some of what they said, can you honestly look at the posts before you and not see a general sense of sarcasm?

Apparently not. It's sad you find my dislike for you amusing. Perhaps if you didn't make generalizations about groups of people I wouldn't have such a problem with what you say. Comparing a group of people to terrorists, even in jest, is hardly a way to get people to laugh.

I give credit where it's due. Check your +rep. I've given it to you in the past month or two for something you said. Maybe I wouldn't feel inclined to disagree with you so often if you said something worth saying - added something to a thread instead of just making the people in it feel stupid.