Xbox 2 will run the tables

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Originally Posted by Neo

I think Microsoft will likely edge out Sony in the next generation. Sony has had the advantage of being the "cool" system and the only real alternative to Nintendo. I think culturally Xbox has taken over the role of the "coolest" console. You're more likely to hear the word Xbox on tv or printed media than you are Playstation. Plus Xbox Live is really up and coming. Games like Halo 2 are suckering mass quantities of gamers into an online realm that Sony can't effectively compete with due to their allowance of 56kers. Nintendo will not be able to shed its kiddy image no matter what innovations they pull out of their hat (or out of anywhere else). I sense kids are almost embarrassed to say they have a Nintendo instead of a Playstation or Xbox.

Though concerning Revolution - what are your thoughts on what their innovation is going to be? Reggie's comments about how systems always involve a controller tethered to a console leads to think they may go for wireless standard. I can't see anything other that a VR headset being more than a gimmick. A built-in camera would be cool but hardly a revolution. Nintendo needs to face the facts and realize they will always be #3.

I dissagree. PS2 is still selling more then Xbox, and its very clear PS3 is going to have quite a big lead next gen also. The gap will be closer but theres absolutly no chance of MS overtaking em.

And sony allowing 56k connections actually allows them to reach MORE people than MS can with BB only. allowing 56 does not hurt them in anyway unless its a game where everyone syncs up together, and i dont know if they're are any of thoes.

Only thing keeping sony back in the online game is the lack of a must have online title. (plus that since it didnt come with an online adapter people had to buy one seperate)
That wont be an issue next gen, sony should have a network adapter, HD Built in, and an xbox live type service to log onto. (hopfully free)

Nintendo i dont have any hope for, they just dont understand the industry anymore. they dont understand what people want. Its like they're living in thier own little world.

Next gen...
Sony with a big lead as usual.
MS catching up but not there yet.
Nintendo way behind.

[Perfect Stu]

I dont know which will be the most successful system next gen, but right now:

-more people play SOCOM online (PS2) than there are active XBox Live users
-PS2 continues to outsell its competition, whether it's the "cool" system or not

[Neo]

Good point about the 56k. I suppose if you are in fact a broadband gamer you would rather have a system which doesn't allow people to dial in. Current news says Xbox 2 is coming out before PS3, right?

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Originally Posted by Neo

Good point about the 56k. I suppose if you are in fact a broadband gamer you would rather have a system which doesn't allow people to dial in. Current news says Xbox 2 is coming out before PS3, right?

Most broadband players dont care either way. its only choppy or laggy for the person on 56k, everyone else would be just fine.
its not a system that they're dialing into. once they're connected to the internet, its exactly the same as broadband. just slower. they'd then log into the server just as brandband users log in, just....slower.

there are times i wish i didnt see 56k users tho when playin a game. i will be smooth as most BB users are, then a 56k user comes and you can actually see him move choppy across the screen. problem is when that helps him out. you had a clean shot and when you fire he warps over the left and your shot doesnt count.
that doesnt happen too often tho so i really dont care. i just aim again and fire.



and yea. if they get it how they're planning. Xbox will be released later 2005 while PS2 i'd think Mid 2006.

which doesnt mean its a good thing. it all depends on how sony plays it. if they start releasing info and getting the hype up just before xbox2 gets released, it will pull people away who want to wait for something better.
(note i dont know if it would be better, but that would be what Sony would hype it as obviously)



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Originally Posted by Linkey

I doubt XBox 2 coming out first will help them all that much. Remember, both the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast were rushed out of the gates, and both pretty much failed miserably.

yes but that also has to do that Sega was coming off other failed systems and they were on a downward hill.
MS is on an upward hill.

IMO it all depends on Sony as to how good it ends up for MS releasing early.



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And also, MS better really make sure thier hardware isnt too far behind Sonys when releasing early. MS has made such a big deal about being the most powerful console that it could REALLY hurt them to have the PS3 as the most powerful next gen.