Metroid Prime 2 gets reviewed tonight at IGN

Jason1 · 11-12-2004, 10:18 PM

I think reviewers often unfairly bash the multiplayer portion of the game. Of course its not as good as the rest of the game, but they still use it as an excuse to dock it points.

Nevertheless, still an amazing score, EGM gave it a 9.0 9.0 10.0 I believe. Looks to me like the good people at Retro have done it again.

Oh and BTW, you can download the new commercial for the game at the offical website, www.metroid.com

Although you will have to do a bit of scanning around to find it within the website...cool commercial though.

Dyne · 11-12-2004, 10:25 PM

That's a really good review compared to so many other games. I can't wait to play it at Christmas.

Ginkasa · 11-12-2004, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason1

I think reviewers often unfairly bash the multiplayer portion of the game. Of course its not as good as the rest of the game, but they still use it as an excuse to dock it points.

I honestly think that reviewers should take a highly relative stance on multiplayer. By this, I mean that how much they include multiplayer in their judgements should be based on its relative importance to the game as a whole.

I haven't read the review yet, but I assume from your statement that IGN subtracted a few tenths of points for the multiplayer. That, I think, is ridiculous. Metroid has always been, to this point, a single player only adventure. The inclusion of a multiplayer of any kind should only add points, not subtract. The development team should be commended for going through the extra effort of including the mode (and to expect multiplayer just because the game is in the first person perspective and includes shooting is ludicrous).

On the other end, a game like Super Smash Bros. Melee would have to have its multiplayer section taken heavily into accout when reviewing the game. The main attraction for SSBM was the multiplayer section, and if it had sucked, the game would have sucked.

*is feeling pretty opinionated lately*

Hm.

*shrugs and walks away*

Blackmane · 11-12-2004, 10:55 PM

Well, that is another game I want.

So many games....so many consoles....so little money...

Perfect Stu · 11-12-2004, 11:01 PM

the reason why IGN uses a "not an average" system is to prevent themselves from forcing a score down because lack of multiplayer, lack of this, poor this, etc.

unless the reviewer said "the game would have scored a 9.9 if it had better multiplayer", I think it would be unfair to assume, as Link did, that they deducted tenths of a score directly in relation to their assessment of the multiplayer aspect.

Ginkasa · 11-12-2004, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

unless the reviewer said "the game would have scored a 9.9 if it had better multiplayer", I think it would be unfair to assume, as Link did, that they deducted tenths of a score directly in relation to their assessment of the multiplayer aspect.

I had already said that I hadn't read the review and was assuming they had done so based on Jason1's post. It was more of a complaint with reviewers in general, anyway, than against IGN in particular.

I've also just got done reading the review, and I actually think the reviewer handled it well. He notes that Metroid Prime doesn't really need a multiplayer, and the the existing one is a little weak compared to Halo 2, etc, but that it is there and it works for those who would be interested. The area where he commented on the multiplayer (lasting appeal) received a 10.

And GM, I'm going to just assume that you're being sarcastic. Otherwise, I'd have to slap you.

*shrugs and walks away*

GameMaster · 11-12-2004, 11:01 PM

That rating is so unfair. IGN is obviously favoring GTA and Halo. Well I hope Metroid Prime 2 sells twice as much as both of those games combined. OMG!

And when DS comes out, GTA and Halo games will begin to gather dust.

Perfect Stu · 11-12-2004, 11:05 PM

obviously the reviewers are more partial to GTA and Halo, GM (sarcasm or not). That's why they received higher scores. Wouldnt you favour game A over game B if you thought game A was better?

and you speak as if IGN is one person.

DeathsHand · 11-12-2004, 11:10 PM

Alls I know is in the beginning of the review, they said that Prime felt "Fresh and Groundbreaking", while Echoes does not... On account of it being more of the same... Which could be a good thing, or a bad thing, or both...

But my bet is that's what brought the score down a whole .3 from Prime's score...

Ginkasa · 11-13-2004, 11:00 AM

GameSpot Gives MP2:E 9.1

*shrugs and walks away*

Xantar · 11-12-2004, 11:18 PM

You know, I realize that 9.5 is an excellent score. And I respect that people may like Halo 2 or Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas more than Metroid Prime 2. Heck, for all I know, I would probably like Halo 2 better.

But what's with Matt saying that Metroid Prime 2 is disappointing because it doesn't stray from the established formula? No, I suppose it doesn't really. It just adds a few refinements, some new weapons and a multiplayer mode. Nothing revolutionary. But I didn't expect any such thing from Halo 2 or San Andreas either. And neither of them did in fact offer a revolution in gameplay (all right, I guess you can make a case for Halo 2's online play, but multiplayer is at least as new to Metroid as online gaming is to Halo).

So why is it suddenly disappointing that Metroid Prime 2 doesn't offer the same overwhelming sense of freshness that the first game did? That's pretty nigh impossible for all three games anyway.

Perfect Stu · 11-13-2004, 12:03 AM

a "sense" of freshness is as subjective as something can be, Xantar. you know that. it doesnt just come down to "what specific aspect of the gameplay offers something you cant find somewhere else?"

An example. I thought GTA3 was a great game. I wasnt as fond of Vice City. The game didnt stray from the winning formula. In fact, it added new elements here and there.

San Andreas, on the other hand, is a different beast. Why? Well, it doesnt have a multiplayer mode (other than the 2 player rampages, which are probably about 0.000003% of the entire game). It doesnt offer a completely new type of gameplay mode. But the entire package...it feels fresh and unique. To myself, and I can assure you, to many other people.

Same thing can probably be said about Halo 2 by loads of other people. I havent played the game yet.

Nor have I played MP2 yet. But that's not the point.