Silent Hill 4 is here

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

You guys remember Walter from SH2, right?

Yeah... When I heard the name I was like "... Walter Sullivan... Sounds familar o.O" then I heard about him killing himself with a spoon (come on... a spoon? I definately took note of that during SH2), I was like "Hah oh thaaaat guuuuy"...

I found it a really interesting thing to build a new story around for a new game...

I beat the game last night... 9 hours 29 minutes... I'd say definately better than 3... With a very intriguing story...

I think it was a great idea to make the game based on a document from a past game... It gave the story a familiar kind of nostalgic feel while at the same time allowing for something completely new...

I wonder where the series will go next... Will they keep this gameplay style? Will the next game have a "central hub" with a storage room etc, and those mario style controls?

And more importantly, I wonder what the story will be... A whole new entry to the series (as 2 was)? A direct tie-in to another story (3)... Or perhaps another off-shoot of sorts, based on a document from a past game (as was this game)... *strokes beard*

[BlueFire]

I've already read many rumors about SH5.. heh. Konami says it will be the last on PS2 and probably won't be released for a while..

BTW I love the ghost designs. SH4 takes the cake for unique monsters/enemies.

[DarkMaster]

There's lots of interesting comparisons between this game and SH2 I find. Like the holes, and going deeper into someone's mind sorta thing. Henry seems to be losing his mind more and more as you go on, or maybe that's just me. I remember an interview with the developers about SH4 said something about insanity effects, like the longer you stay around ghosts and other crap, the more strange things will get (like, weird noises you hear in the distances and stuff). Don't know if anyone else noticed this, but yeah it's a pretty cool feature, something to toy around with maybe.

edit: about that stupid ass doll, the one walter puts on the stairs. Apparently you aren't suppose to take it, and of course I took it, just like pretty well everyone else did. I'm hearing it affects the ending, but people at gamefaqs don't know how to write in english, so I don't know wtf is going on. I do know, however, that it does make a pack of screaming babies appear over your chest if you leave it in there. Interesting stuff...

[DeathsHand]

To me Henry seemed to be like the most calm kind of character in a Silent Hill game....... Maybe just because he didn't talk as much as past characters...

There are no sanity effect type things, it's just as time goes on the spirits start to invade your apartment... And it didn't seem like we were delving deeper into his mind to me... Infact to me for awhile I thought maybe he wasn't in his own mind or body or something (in the beginning of the game if you look at the TV he's like "Wait... didn't I have a record player here?" and other weird stuff as the game progresses... I had so many theories running through my head as the game went on it was great...

As for the doll, I took it to... what it does is if you stick it in your chest at home, it creates a few different kind of spirits that invade your house... apparently...

You say everyone took it, but BLueFire didn't... he's the smart one here...

And I second that most unique monsters/enemies comment...

[DarkMaster]

Someone pointed this out to me on another forum, I'm not sure if he's right or not, cause I don't remember it. Anyway, in SH2, that graveyard you visit at the end of the prison and fight with Eddy, it has Walter's grave there. Kind of sounds familiar, I remember it had James' grave, and I was like "whoo, crazy". Just an interesting fact anyway...even though the location for his grave in SH4 is different...sorta, still near the lake though.

I keep thinking about that phrase in SH2 written on the wall in some abandoned store "There was a hole here, now it's gone". I dunno, this thing always puzzled me, but playing SH4 reminded me of it for some reason... It just kind of seems like (and maybe I heard this somewhere else and forgot about it), that a very large number of people, for god knows how long, have been trapped in or have experienced the town of Silent Hill, in some way. Like, all the writings on the walls and stuff in each game (especially in SH4), you know that someone, at some time in the past, has experienced the exact same thing, for whatever reason. And there's other evidence of this in each game, like the fact that the places you visit and explore (hospital, subway, etc), feel like they have been previously explored by someone else, at some time. And those journals and diarys all over the place talking about strange crazy crap that people have gone through, and in some ways in connects to your current situation.

Yeah... And Walter is a god damn asshead.

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

Someone pointed this out to me on another forum, I'm not sure if he's right or not, cause I don't remember it. Anyway, in SH2, that graveyard you visit at the end of the prison and fight with Eddy, it has Walter's grave there. Kind of sounds familiar, I remember it had James' grave, and I was like "whoo, crazy". Just an interesting fact anyway...even though the location for his grave in SH4 is different...sorta, still near the lake though.

I keep thinking about that phrase in SH2 written on the wall in some abandoned store "There was a hole here, now it's gone". I dunno, this thing always puzzled me, but playing SH4 reminded me of it for some reason... It just kind of seems like (and maybe I heard this somewhere else and forgot about it), that a very large number of people, for god knows how long, have been trapped in or have experienced the town of Silent Hill, in some way. Like, all the writings on the walls and stuff in each game (especially in SH4), you know that someone, at some time in the past, has experienced the exact same thing, for whatever reason. And there's other evidence of this in each game, like the fact that the places you visit and explore (hospital, subway, etc), feel like they have been previously explored by someone else, at some time. And those journals and diarys all over the place talking about strange crazy crap that people have gone through, and in some ways in connects to your current situation.

Yeah... And Walter is a god damn asshead.

I don't think the cemetery in Silent hill 2 was the actual cemetery where Walter was buried... It was just kind of like a place... I mean James wasn't really buried there... Neither were Eddie and Angela...

Another thing I don't get is in the document talking about Walter in Silent Hill 2, it says this:

"But I do remember that just
before they arrested him he
was blurting out all sorts of
strange stuff like 'He's trying
to kill me. He's trying to
punish me. The monster... the
red devil. Forgive me. I did it,
but it wasn't me!'.""

Which... Really doesn't seem like the Walter in Silent Hill 4... But I dunno...

Also there are a couple other things... in Silent Hill 3 (I think it was 3) they mentioned a "Hope House" which sounded a lot like "Wish House"... And it's basically like they changed the name for some odd reason... Even though it's the same thing...

Also in SH2, Laura mentions something about "Nurse Rachel".... and in Silent Hill 4 there is the deal about "Rachael", a nurse who lives in Henry's apartment... Could be another connection that for some reason is switched around (added the a to her name)... I dunno...

[DarkMaster]

There's also that radio show in the hospital elevator, talks about how two children were brutally murdered by Walter (I'm pretty sure they said it was him, cause he was like this famous cerial killer, and that particular case was most disturbing).

Yeah, but anyway, that whole thing about the "red devil" and "it wasn't me!" that was pretty well to give Eddy more development, cause you can see a little more clearly what's going on with him, and that there are other people who have experienced the same thing. But...Walter in SH4, looks like he was doing all that crap by his own free will...so maybe they forgot about that note from SH2 :/

And that Hope House from SH3, wasn't that where Claudia and some other people (forget exactly who they were) lived? But yeah, two Nurse Rachel's doesnt seem like a coincidence.

Also, something that's kind of interesting. In SH2, James is grouped with Walter (along with Eddy and Angela) as being these pretty sadistic killers, like being all in the same graveyard and stuff. And, James' dad knew Walter somewhat as a kid, not to mention he kept his freakin embelical (wrong spelling I'm sure, meh) cord. Just kind of interesting.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

I beat the game last night... 9 hours 29 minutes... I'd say definately better than 3... With a very intriguing story...

I beat it in 9 hours 23 minutes....HAHAHAHaaa.....ha.....eh...

/me remembers he got the "bad" ending...

/me also remembers the game was released 5 months ago.

[BlueFire]

This game is my my 2nd favorite in the series, right below 2.

[MuGen]

you guys talking about Silent Hill 4 the Room or did I miss the release of Silent Hill 4... the game?

[BlueFire]

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

you guys talking about Silent Hill 4 the Room or did I miss the release of Silent Hill 4... the game?

The Room. :P Its the only Silent Hill 4 game.