My Liberal Views

[Stonecutter]

Hey Strangler:


Abortion?

[Crash]

I'm republican but i agree with some things democratic:

Gay marriage. I dont agree with it, but it isn't my place to say they can't get married, that is stupid for us to think we can tell other people how to live.

School funding: teachers are some of the hardest working people in america... give em more $$

but.

weed: dont need to legalize it, just going to make more people look and act stupider. like we need more people running around like drunks do and kill people in cars. Compare it to alcohol? Get rid of that too, I dont give a crap.

Polically correct views: I hate em, affirmative action is retarded (and i'm technically a minority, and still think it's BS)

Liberals need to get with the program and stop being so idealistic and be more realistic. then maybe i'd like em better.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Stonecutter

Hey Strangler:


Abortion?

In an ideal world I would be against it, but this is not an ideal world and as Socrates said... "S**t happens". I do not support it, but I tolerate its existence.

However I am deeply against partial-birth abortions as partial-birth is basically semantics for excusing euthanasia. In fact, I do not agree with any abortions that take place after the first three months of pregnancy as after that I believe the fetus has developed enough to be considered a child and not merely a potential human life.

[Joeiss]

Legalize weed, and tax the hell out of it. That would make government lots and lots of cash. And then obviously the alcohol rules would apply to marijuana as well... Maybe even stricter.

[Typhoid]

Im for abortion, ( I know the way i said that makes me sound evil) But its the womans choice.

And i dont think the fetus is considered a "child" until its born.

When a pregnant woman who has 3 kids already, gets asked how many kids she has, she doesnt say 4, she says 3, and one on the way.

Meaning its a developing child.

So if after 3 months a fetus is considered a child, are they counted in the census reports? Do they get a passport yet? Birth Certificate? Christmas Presents? No, because they arnt technically people yet.

If a house is being built, 3 months into the construction you dont consider it a full-blow house yet, its a house in construction.

Such is a baby, they are people in construction if you will.

It takes 9 months to develop a baby, not 3, or else the baby would be out in three months if "mother nature" deemed it sufficient enough time.

[Crash]

yeah, but dont they also say,

can you feel the baby kicking?

they dont say, can you feel the fetus kicking. or, can you feel what-is-going-to-be-a-baby-later kicking

[Joeiss]

abortion stops a beating heart....

[Crono]

I'm for abortion, but sometimes I think things like "let the stupid slut who got laid put up with that damned child to be, no matter what it does to her life, it's the bitch's responsiblity now".

Originally Posted by bouncer

You wouldn't mind it if your government forced you to go to church on Sunday? How about requiring you to pay tithe to a church?

Explain to me why you think church(religion) should have any purposeful integration with government please.

I'm Catholic, but my opinion is that religion needs to stay out of government and politics. People use their religous ideas and take them too far.

And Christianity won't last much longer anyway, it'll eventually disappear out of constitutions, with the new generation of youth and all. Islam, on the other hand...

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Im for abortion, ( I know the way i said that makes me sound evil) But its the womans choice.

And i dont think the fetus is considered a "child" until its born.

So by this definition, if a child is one week away for its due date, it could still be aborted and thats perfectly fine?

Or could a mother give birth but only let the head out, then smash it with a hammer, and that would be fine to, seeing as its not officially "born" yet?

This is a very slippery slope you walk down.

So if after 3 months a fetus is considered a child, are they counted in the census reports? Do they get a passport yet? Birth Certificate? Christmas Presents? No, because they aren't technically people yet.

So your definition of humanity breaks down to government certification and Christmas presents? I find that depressing.

If a house is being built, 3 months into the construction you dont consider it a full-blow house yet, its a house in construction.

You just compared a living thing to a house.

It takes 9 months to develop a baby, not 3, or else the baby would be out in three months if "mother nature" deemed it sufficient enough time.

So I'll ask you again, by you're definition you are fine with an abortion being ok in 8 3/4 months as long as the child is still in the mother?

[Jonbo298]

I don't have a problem with Abortion. It's the Woman's choice. It's her body. Not the governments body. Althought after about the 3-4 month mark, the abortion process shouldn't happen and after the mother has the child, let someone adopt it.

[Typhoid]

Strangler, who would decide to abort the child when its being born, and who the f*** in their right mind would smash a baby's head with a hammer? You are f***ed up to even think of that as a valid argument.

If the woman decides to abort the baby, she will abort it, her decision, whenever that may be. But nobody would let the decision linger for 8 3/4 months, they would decisde in a couple.


And the baby would be born if the head is out, because well, the head is out.

I honestly cant get over what you said about hitting a baby on the head with a hammer, your sick and f***ing demented man, seriously, what kind of person would say something like that, or even think it to be a good argument point?

And yes, i compared an un-born fetus to a house, at least im not saying things about hitting babies on the heads with hammers.