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05-24-2004, 04:39 AM
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The troops? What are the troops doing? It was bombed, meaning the most the troops got is something like "NA 08565 36452." That, BTW, is a 5-digit grid coordinate, accurate to within 1 meter. Pilot gets it, drops the bomb. Troops getting too relaxed, they have no idea what they are bombing.
It could have been bad intelligence. Oops. Better luck next time.
Or, we could've had someone on the ground who designated the target, and if that was the case, there's a reason that place was hit.
Since when did America need to justify every bombing to the world? You have no idea what is going on over there, and you don't care until you can spin it to suit your political argument. None of you cared when these people died before, because you don't care about these people. You only pretend to now, because you can use it as an attack on Bush, who, by the way, does not approve every shot fired in Iraq.
Some crazy journalist who knows nothing of the military strategy is going in after each battle and creating some stupid story for the NYTimes and you guys get all excited, like Bush is going to lose. There's a million reasons why this place could've been bombed, and some of them are not exactly going to be disclosed to the public. For example, say a Syrian or Iranian leader was going to be at the wedding, and we had intel that they were paying the insurgents to go into Iraq and fight. Well guess what? We're not at war with those countries, you can't just go tell the world "Hey, we're killing your guys now" without starting another war. God damn, that actually makes sense. One of many possible reasons.
No journalist knows why we're doing what we're doing. They're kept completely out of the military strategy, they just go in after we attack and interview civilians. Well her husband just got shot, no **** she's not happy with us. Then again, the husband was shooting at us with RPGs, but of course, let's leave that out of the story.
Oh no, some innocent civilians got hit with a bomb blast. Well no ****, I thought bombs only killed one person. Here's a better idea, to prevent that, how about we send more soldiers on foot. Oh wait, we don't have that many. Well good, let's draft em from all you ****ers sitting back and whining about innocents dying. Then I can sit back and train you draftees and send you over to die. But look on the bright side, less innocent Iraqis will die.
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05-24-2004, 07:51 AM
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Leave Iraq. Now. 
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05-24-2004, 08:18 AM
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This is a perfect example of what I have been talking about. The keft have taken an example of a mistake made during wartime, analyze it to death and try to put more importance on their lives that ever trying to look at THE BIG PICTURE.
Why do they do that?
Because if they looked at the big picture they'd see the thousands of lives that have actually been SAVED by the war. But no, 40+ people at a wedding were killed so the entire war and all the people who won't be terrorized and murdered out of hand mean absolutely NOTHING. You have to love human rights issues when they become pure politics.
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05-24-2004, 11:38 AM
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it says there were rifles and foreign passports, they suspect it was a camp (who just happened to also have a wedding)
terrorists get married to. damn liberal reporters, just writing up the "sad, poor iraqi's" crap. american media sickens me.
keep serving your country boys!
*prepares to vote for bush*
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05-24-2004, 02:04 PM
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Grrr!
You people have little or no regard for human life. You just don't give a ****.
At this point I don't give a flying **** who is in the White House this year. Republican or Democrat, this war will continue.
And don't just think I'm anti-American. I care about the lives of the soldiers that this war is costing.
But to say you want to go into a country and help it and then kill thousands of civilians? What the hell is that!?
What's your excuse? You're killing them so that they don't die!? Granted, some civilians will get killed in cross fire and such. I can handle that. But SO MANY civilians have died.
You're not protecting them from terror. You're subjecting them to terror this very moment. Is it a surprise they're fighting back? There was an estimate (which I'll attempt to find) that said that every person in Iraq has lost at least one member of their family in one branch in every direction.
When this war is done, the Iraqis will have nothing but hate for the Americans. This could spawn more terror attacks against America. Therefore, this has to be the most pointless war since Vietnam.
I don't have some sort of political agenda when I talk about civilian death. I'm simply disgusted by the fact that so many civilians are dying. I can't help but think some of the reporters reporting these stories feel the same way.
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05-24-2004, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dylflon
Grrr!
You people have little or no regard for human life. You just don't give a ****.
At this point I don't give a flying **** who is in the White House this year. Republican or Democrat, this war will continue.
And don't just think I'm anti-American. I care about the lives of the soldiers that this war is costing.
But to say you want to go into a country and help it and then kill thousands of civilians? What the hell is that!?
What's your excuse? You're killing them so that they don't die!? Granted, some civilians will get killed in cross fire and such. I can handle that. But SO MANY civilians have died.
You're not protecting them from terror. You're subjecting them to terror this very moment. Is it a surprise they're fighting back? There was an estimate (which I'll attempt to find) that said that every person in Iraq has lost at least one member of their family in one branch in every direction.
When this war is done, the Iraqis will have nothing but hate for the Americans. This could spawn more terror attacks against America. Therefore, this has to be the most pointless war since Vietnam.
I don't have some sort of political agenda when I talk about civilian death. I'm simply disgusted by the fact that so many civilians are dying. I can't help but think some of the reporters reporting these stories feel the same way.
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You keep missing what I'm talking about when I say the BIG PICTURE. You look at civilian casualties that happen now because of the war, and I see all the death and torture that the war is currently preventing that happened on a far larger scale from day to day in Iraq, and all the death and torture that this war will save 10 years in the future.
Please don't accuse those that support the war of not caring about human life, we just see this war as a boon for human life in the long run in Iraq. You are letting yourself drop back into the "conservatives are evil" mindframe again and it strips you of a LOT of credibility.
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05-24-2004, 02:30 PM
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Great, Strangler.
I'm not dropping into an anyone is evil frame of mind. Can't someone be pissed off about people dying and not have a political agenda?
And I'm sorry, you were so right! The big picture! This has been the most poorly operated military operation I have seen in my entire life. Are you people aware that Bush declared that the mission was accomplised just a littel overt a year ago? Yet people are still being killed. Civilians might I add.
Go ahead and think of your army as righteous for what they are doing. But most people think of them as the new crusaders and that's not a good thing. What the army is doing would be a lot more righteous if they weren't killing so many ****ing innocent people.
And most people here obviously don't care anything for the lives of Iraqis because when a story about families being killed in a wedding bombing is posted they laugh about it and support they're troops doing things like this.
This is just plain ****ed up. Right now I don't give a damn abotu politics. I care about the fact that the Iraqi people have been dehumanized to you. You don't care that they're dying.
BTW, did you read the whole article? About the video tapes of the wedding? Did you or did you decide to pretend you didn't when you said they were probably terrorists?
Do you know how sore you'd be about things like this if it were your country being invaded? Think about that. What if it were you? You know what you'd do when it was over? Attack back.
That's what Iraq will more than likely do. Your big picture is bull****. This is a war about securing American interests in the Middle East. They have things America wants. That's why they're there. If there was some sort of ruthless dictator killing people in Ethiopia, America wouldn't do anything about it.
Americans need to stop wrapping these tradegies in "good intentions", jesus and the american flag. You accuse reporters of not knowing whats happening there when they're reporting things there. They've been there. You haven't. So don't go thinking you know more than they do. All you have is assumptions. They have first hand experience.
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