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Re: Worrying About the Future
Old 05-10-2004, 09:44 PM   #1
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So then isnt The Strangler wrong in stating his OPINION on how someone elses OPINION was wrong? ( which is what i was saying)

And yes Maddox is the king...well...pirate king that is...except on april fools day, then he was the Mr. Clean king who loved everyone..

( And Crono..i do know that...read the sig, its been there for a while...)
Isn't a "view" and an "opinion" the same thing?
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Re: Worrying About the Future
Old 05-10-2004, 09:47 PM   #2
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Isn't a "view" and an "opinion" the same thing?

Semantics my friend....but yes, they probably are...but the sentace wouldnt sound right without one of them in it...
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Re: Worrying About the Future
Old 05-11-2004, 12:46 PM   #3
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Typhoid, you need to take a philosophy class. There is a such thing as a valid and invalid point... your arguements are not valid because you don't base them off of facts. That doesn't mean you are "wrong" but it does mean that you can and never will come out on top in a debate and you will be made to look wrong by the people who use more facts to back there arguements.

Here's an example:

You are in a room, the room has two sides seperated by prison bars... On one side there is you, the keys to open up the door in the bars, and a gun. On the other side there is your worst enemy, and he is yelling at you that he will kill you the second you open the door and let him through.

"In my opinion you should hand him the gun and unlock the door and let him through, because I think if you do that he may become your best friend and not want to harm you at all."-Mr. Dumass

Is that opinion "wrong"? No... but is it based off of facts? No. Thus making the person who made the opinion sound like a complete idiot. Just think about it.
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Old 05-11-2004, 03:07 PM   #4
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Typhoid, a basic concept you are having trouble grasping is that there is a difference between having an opinion and having that opinion respected. The lynch pin in having your opinion respected is factual evidence to back it up.

There are many people here who don't agree with me but respect my opinions because I back them up with information and evidence and often times just common sense.

Do you see anyone here getting your back in this argument? That should tell you something.

All I did was ask Stonecutter for some information to back up why he felt that the West was the problem in the relationship between the Middle East and the West. Now there is plenty of information there if he wishes to look it up going back as far as the Crusades or as recent as the founding of Israel. I just wanted to see whether or not he was basing his opinion on political correctness or on actual information.

Now you might wonder I tend to be very blunt when challenging people's opinions, a reason I have kept secret until now...

The answer is simple: I am going to school to become a secondary school teacher and the best way to engage a young mind to tell them they're wrong, because as we all know young people think they are always right. By telling them they are wrong, even if they have a valid point, it inspires further study and gives them a reason to become more involved in the topic.

Just look at how far Dyflon has come before I first began aguing with him. Debating him has become increasingly difficult since I began this strategy, though I can still take him. Unfortunately that strategy is not working with Typhoid...
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