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[Hero2]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

there is probably a thread already like this, but i wanted to know your peoples views on America and their fondness of war..... (n/o)

Were not fond of war....we just have a surplus population

one of my freinds was explaing how china fights there wars. they just throw there soldiers out on the front lines and hope they lose a few because they have too many. (and before you say hes racist hes from china)

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Hero2

Were not fond of war....we just have a surplus population

one of my freinds was explaing how china fights there wars. they just throw there soldiers out on the front lines and hope they lose a few because they have too many. (and before you say hes racist hes from china)

But china doesnt go attacking other countrys to make a statement. George Bush sr. faught Saddam, so George "dubbya" Bush had to take up the sibling rivalry in my view. Im just sick of the militarism of the said country.

[Dylflon]

Watch it Typhoid. People will try to smash you good. They tried to smash me good. Although, I have studied a lot on the subject. So now if I ever got in another argument about it I'd be okay. Study up so you can support your argument.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

Watch it Typhoid. People will try to smash you good. They tried to smash me good. Although, I have studied a lot on the subject. So now if I ever got in another argument about it I'd be okay. Study up so you can support your argument.

Who really cares if he can support it or not, hes right either way. Blab on Thyphoid.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Jason1

Who really cares if he can support it or not, hes right either way. Blab on Thyphoid.

Oh, so you should just support an ignorant opinion whether or not it has any basis in fact, as long as it supports your beliefs. Hooray for liberalism.

IGNORAMUS's AHOY!!!

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by The Strangler

Oh, so you should just support an ignorant opinion whether or not it has any basis in fact, as long as it supports your beliefs. Hooray for liberalism.

IGNORAMUS's AHOY!!!

First off, Typhoid is new here so he missed this argument the first 10 times.

Also, most people who oppose the war base their views on "how many civilians are being needlessly killed?"

In this war, many civilians are being needlessly killed. Most people respond to this by saying things like "They're casualties of war" or "because they were fighting back."

Casualties of war is bull****. Go on the internet on sites like the English Al Jazeera news site. Look for some of the war videos out there that they won't show on TV because it makes america look bad. A while ago on CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) they showed unedited videos from the war that were not allowed to be shown on CNN (like most of the footage from the war). I saw some very diturbing footage. On the internet I also found some very disturbing footage. One particularily disturbing piece of footage was an entire family being killed for not cooperating with the soldiers. The most disturbing piece of footage I saw was an American soldier talking about how "awesome" it was to kill Iraqis. I'll paraphrase it for you.

Everyone just opens fire on him. Then he's dead and you're like "Oh man, that was awesome. Let's do that again."

Too many people are being killed there.

the other argument was that the Iraqi civilians weren't cooperating. Of courrse they aren't cooperating. If America was being taken over by anotehr country and being occupied, Americans would fight back.

There was a study conducted recently (I'll try to see if there's a link to it on the internet) stating that in every family (immediate family, grandparents, grandchildren, first cousins, aunts, uncles, nieces nephews) at least one person has been killed.

Killing their family members isn't the best way to make them not hate you.

I won't stop opposing the war until Iraqi civilians stop being killed.

[Jonbo298]

I agree on the whole Iraqi's not cooperating. If we were being invaded and the opposing country gained control of the US, would WE cooperate? Hell f*cking no. Iraqi's are feeling the same way. Not all of them see us as a "savior who has come to free from evil". Some see it as a takeover and they dont take it lightly.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

First off, Typhoid is new here so he missed this argument the first 10 times.

Yeah, but you have and I refuse to continually repeat myself to people who refuse to listen.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Im just sick of the militarism of the said country.

What?

[Jonbo298]

Going to War without support from other countries defeats the whole purpose. I personally wish we never went into Iraq in the first place. When Bush keeps repeating "He was a bad bad man and we just had to go in there and take him out" (not exact words but you get the point). Bush is running us into a much deeper deficit that will take a very long time to recover. Historians will look back at this time as one in which bad decisions were made.

I personally feel that going to war without justifying a good reason just so he can try to regain popularity, etc...just sickens me. If Bush's stupid ass would've waited for support from the UN, we wouldnt be in such a horrible situation with money being wasted everyday and our own troops being forced to stay longer then what they were said. Hell, I just heard the other day that some troops were within hours of boarding a flight home then they were told they were staying longer. Just sad.

I see the future of the US as a country who wants to spy on us, steal our privacy, and give useless excuses like "But we need to be more secure". Then while at it, launch wars against countries because we feel we have so much money to just throw around. Anyone care to disagree the fact that the US is basically becoming Big Brother to everything we do?

[Dylflon]

Thank god, Jonbo. An American who agrees with me about the Big Brotehr thing.

My problem with the Iraq war is it has nothing to do with the WTC. Why bother going there? All you're doing is killing civilians.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Bond

What?

Im not saying everyone supports the army or anything, i didnt try to offend anyone, i meant that MOST americans take great pride in the fact that they have such a powerful military...im not saying anyone here is though...so sorry bout that.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Im not saying everyone supports the army or anything, i didnt try to offend anyone, i meant that MOST americans take great pride in the fact that they have such a powerful military...im not saying anyone here is though...so sorry bout that.

I didn't say "What?" because I was offended, I just didn't understand what you were saying. Thank you for clarifying your viewpoint. Although as you have already pointed out the United States is not a country that would be associated with militarism. The military is not of primary importance to our state. We spend 3.2% of our GDP on our military. Where as North Korea spends 33.9% of their GDP on military. So you could call North Korea a militarist state, but not the United States.

[Seth]

Just pray the democrats get back into office next term.

[Dylflon]

Hooray for democracy.

I thought someone was going to rip Typhoid a new anus, but so far no flaming.