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Old 04-14-2004, 08:24 PM   #1
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Look at Germany. Jews are a race and were persecuted for being of their race, not their nationality. Jews don't believe they even have a nationality.
Not that I'm arguing with your argument, I jsut want to clear up the thing about Jewish people in Germany.

The German Jewish people were not killed because they were Jewish. They were killed as a sick and twisted revenge plot.

Here's how the story goes:

During the later part of World War I Britain and Germany were considering calling the whole war a tie and letting their troops go home. But the more powerful Jewish-Germans had convinced the other powers of Germany to continue the war. They said that they would win for sure. As we all know, Germany lost the first world war. When the Treay of Versailles came about, Germany was left bankrupt. Germany went into a depression.

Hitler was still bothered by the treaty and blamed the Jews that told them to keep the war going for Germany's economic status. So Hitler and his regime started putting the Jewish people to work in forced labour programs. But it evetually got really out of hand and they started killing the Jews and these labour camps became death camps.

So, the Jews werren't persecuted for being Jewish per se. Hitler was sore and took it out on the the German-Jews.
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Re: Is it racism?
Old 04-14-2004, 08:28 PM   #2
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Hitler was commiting Genecide (the act of trying to obliterate a single race from the planet) He (Hitler) believed in the perfect race ( i forget the name) He didnt like the jews, and would have killed the Asians and blacks, but the jews were so much closer and didnt have a country, they wre interspersed to other country's, so they didnt have a military.
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Old 04-15-2004, 11:49 AM   #3
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Hitler's mindset was purely race based. He believed in the myth of the superiority of not just the white race, but the blonde haired blue eyed arian race. This ideal of racial purity superceded even religion, and essentially National Socialism became about self-worship.

Hitler believed that the Jews were responsible for the plight of his racially impure country, they were not just a scapegoat for a failed Germany that was persecuted after WWI. All accounts of those who knew Hitler during this time back this up.

Also, even in the hypothetical chance if the jews were a scapegoat for WWI, they were still a race that was targeted to be a scapegoat because of the intense anti-semitism that was prevalent at that time. So in the end, it was still all about race.

In fact anti-semitism is currently running rampant in Europe and has been for a while now, especially in Spain.
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Old 04-15-2004, 10:30 PM   #4
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The strangler...pretty much what you said, has been said in the last 5 posts....
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:48 AM   #5
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The strangler...pretty much what you said, has been said in the last 5 posts....
I'm reiterating that it WAS about race and that race does exist and is not some sort of nationalistic fallacy. I wasn't arguing with Dyflon to begin with... at least not in this thread.
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Old 04-16-2004, 11:48 AM   #6
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The strangler...pretty much what you said, has been said in the last 5 posts....
I'm reiterating that it WAS about race and that race does exist and is not some sort of nationalistic fallacy. I wasn't arguing with Dyflon to begin with... at least not in this thread.
Do you mean your name is reiterating that it WAS about race and that race does exist and is not some sort of nationalistic fallacy.
Perhaps I misunderstood. What were you?Where then?I am so glad you find this amusing, .
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