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Old 03-08-2004, 03:11 AM   #1
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Default Re: Physics problem

But let's say you're throwing marbles. If you only throw 1 marvel with all your strength, it goes so far you can't even see where it lands.
But if you throw a BAG OF marbles (let's say 100 of them) with all your strength, you won't be able to throw it farther than 10 meter.

Perhaps you guys are right about the bow having so much energy.... *thinks*
No it's just impossible, where would the energy go? It just doesn't make sense...
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Re: Physics problem
Old 03-08-2004, 03:45 AM   #2
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To support what mariolover is saying:
Of course throwing 100 marbles would be different than 1, but I bet you could throw 3 marbles the same distance because you have a lot of energy and momentum in your throw, but not all of it can be taken by the single marble. A bow is similiar: Of course trying to fire 100 arrows wouldn't work, but 3 arrows get almost the same force as 1 because it builds up an enormous amount of potential energy, but in the release, it releases a lot of that energy away because it can only give so much to one arrow. The string will only move an arrow so far, but it has enough energy leftover to fire off several more arrows and releases that through vibrations, heat, etc.

Therefore, add two more arrows to the system and you have the same force in each arrow, and less energy released in different ways.
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Re: Physics problem
Old 03-08-2004, 09:13 AM   #3
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Still doesn't make sense.

Of course, when there is a max speed for the arrow (because of the air resistence thingy).... but then it would be useless to use all your strength when firing arrows. If what you say is true, you might as well fire at 1/3 of max strenght.
And I know that max strenght DOES matter.

I'll ask on an archer forum if that exists.
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Re: Physics problem
Old 03-08-2004, 11:09 AM   #4
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Dude, have ANY of you actually done archary?

Physics aside, its freaking hard to balance the three arrows to shoot them symataniously...
The marble senario is irrelevant as you arne't "heaving" the arrows, so the extra weight doesn't matter.
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:38 PM   #5
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Dude, have ANY of you actually done archary?

Physics aside, its freaking hard to balance the three arrows to shoot them symataniously...
The marble senario is irrelevant as you arne't "heaving" the arrows, so the extra weight doesn't matter.
I agree, marbles arent the same as arrows.

Wouldnt be like this?

|<-/-- = 1/6 power
<-(-- = 2/3 power
|<-\-- = 1/6 power

because the initial arrow would be ahead of the rest of the arrows. maybe, im just guessing
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:40 PM   #6
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because the initial arrow would be ahead of the rest of the arrows. maybe, im just guessing
If there is no target in range, they will all hit the ground at the exact same time (if they are all shot at the exact same time).
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Old 03-08-2004, 03:57 PM   #7
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Default Re: Physics problem

Wouldn't the centre of the string have the most force?

So the middle arrow should go faster than the top and bottom one i'd imagine.

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Old 03-08-2004, 11:11 AM   #9
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No it's just impossible, where would the energy go? It just doesn't make sense...
It goes into your arm that you're holding the bow with mostly. That's part of the reason why you have to keep it straight and rigid.
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Re: Physics problem
Old 03-08-2004, 12:24 PM   #10
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The string isn't straight when it's pulled back, is it? I think that's the confusing part. It'd be like...

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Arrow one and three wouldn't have as much force, because they wouldn't be centered. But, I don't think it makes a difference.
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Old 03-08-2004, 02:39 PM   #11
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i think all three would have the same force if you were able to balance all three arrows to shoot at the same time and angle
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Old 03-08-2004, 02:44 PM   #12
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they'll have the same force ..... but lower then only 1 arrow
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:07 PM   #13
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Stop arguing ... thats what i said !!
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:37 PM   #14
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What thats what I said ...... no wait I killed the squirrels with a train nevermind.
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Old 03-08-2004, 11:57 PM   #15
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What thats what I said ...... no wait I killed the squirrels with a train nevermind.


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