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Re: The Survivor Story
Old 02-18-2004, 11:26 PM   #1
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I just can't help but laugh because everyone has this automatic idea that I was going to form an alliance with hero2/ominub/jewels. The thought never crossed my mind, but its funny how everyone seemed to think I was going to. But you know what, who ****ing cares. The game is done. I'm not gonna argue about it. I saw the **** that happened, oh well. Stu, how could you fall for the idea that you would become leader? As far as I know, when I got voted out, it seemed like there wasnt another leader. But oh well. I just laugh because everyone thought I was going to be a threat just because I chose a few people from in town. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
please excuse me as I continue laughing
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Now I can laugh even more because someone gave me neg. rep and said " he who laughs is he who'll cry "
I'm still laughing pretty damn good here. hahahahahahaha
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Re: The Survivor Story
Old 02-18-2004, 11:29 PM   #2
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I would just like to pose a question.

Why should we care?

I mean GameMaster won.. whoopity doo..
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Old 02-19-2004, 06:15 AM   #3
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All I do in these journals is ctrl+f Canyarion, so I'll see what they have to say about me.

Vampyr, realise that my trust in you didn't last very long. You seemed believable, but Rndm told me about you and since then I've been trying to make you lose. It worked.

Edit: about the Umbrella Traitor, I always thought it was a STARS Traitor. I never understood that you wanted me to believe that my team members were gonna vote me off.
I just replied with "You're so cute! " or something like that.
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Re: The Survivor Story
Old 02-19-2004, 04:28 PM   #4
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It's very interesting to see your side, Vampyr. I didn't know about an Umbrella traitor though. I AM quite surprised that they let an oustider influence them =¬Þ. And to let you know, PMing each of them that they were next was not a good idea. It would bring up suspicion, discussion, and ultimately break the legitimacy of the threats.

But I dunno, they seemed to believe Umbrella Traitor



Something interesting though:
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[Dylflon] I was worried about Dyne and Rndm (who was yet to show how conniving he was) and threw around the idea of throwing the next two matches. I figured we could just vote off the new guys. We considered it at first but then decided it was probably not a good idea. Plus we soon found that Yoda and Canyarion were very fun to work with.[/Dylflon]

After the next Challenge, STARS won, as usual. But, instead of Rndm helping Dyne, he sold him out and actually conspired to have Dyne voted off. Sadly, Dyne was removed from the game, but vengeance would be had.

[Dylflon] We were quite furious.[/Dylflon]
Indeed we were.
OK, so Dylflon once again shows that he knows very little about the game.

I went into a tribe in a 2v3 situation, and I didn't trust Dyne. As we all know from having read this post, my assumptions were correct. Vampyr should know personally that my intuition is often times accurate. I mean hey, I guessed from the start that GM was in their alliance. I felt you were too, Vampyr, but why would I tell you?

Anywho... I knew Dyne would want to vote me off, but I had no proof. At the time, my concern was to be loyal to those I pledged loyalty to (Only GM at that point in the game) and survive to do the best for him (GM).

My loyalty was not to STARS, it was to GM. So, what do I do? I play my part of the "game" and do the strategizing/trickery. I knew the odds of convincing Umbrella to betray themselves were a lot lower than just having them vote off Dyne instead of me.

I saw that Stu was the leader figure, so I talked to him. I didn't lie to him about anything, I just said that Dyne likely had the largest alliance with people from STARS, and that I was only allied with GM (Yes, I did tell Stu that). I let him know that if he wanted to win... he'd need more people than just Umbrella members to help him out.

What Stu and I planned, was a way to get to the merger... I didn't pledge loyalty past the merger (though I did try to help him with the immunity I got).

We left Happydude and Ginkasa out of the dark for awhile... I just wanted Stu to tell Happy and Gink that they were voting for Dyne "because he was more of a threat". I felt it was a reasonable/believable excuse. Meanwhile, I had to keep STARS from interfering with the plans.

I talked to Happydude eventually, and layed down the plan with him and Stu. I let Happy know that Stu wanted to vote him out before there was a switch up of members (which was true), and I informed him that voting out Dyne would get his favor with Stu (which it did a little bit... it brought Happy to the merger instead of Ginkasa). So, the reason why Ginkasa got voted out instead of Happy... was because Stu was the current leader, and Stu wanted to vote out Happy. Ginkasa was just a third wheel that I couldn't fit into the plan, even though I wanted to.

So, I'm talking to Happy, and he relays a chat he had with Dylflon. Dylflon says something to the effect of "You're voting our Rndm, right?" there was a pause "I mean Stu, right? And then Rndm." I was telling STARS that I was trying to convince Happy to vote for Stu. In the poll, I did vote for Stu, by the way. Dyne and I both voted for Stu, but a 2v3 doesn't work.

Anywho, the conversation went on about how Dylflon didn't like how I was playing the game (Heh, how was I playing the game at the time? I didn't tell anybody about my plans to vote off Dyne to anybody but Happy and Stu. Later I revealed it to Gimpy because Gimpy was Happy's friend, and I didn't want third party complications there... but that was after Dylflon contacted Happy, I believe. I may be wrong, maybe Gimpy told Dylflon).


Well, the point is, why were you so furious, STARS? What I did was I said I'd help, when I was planning to save myself by voting out Dyne. The "three" did the same, but to a much greater extent. I wasn't allied with Dyne, so I didn't feel I was betraying him by getting him voted out. And I didn't feel I was damaging GM, because I didn't think GM was allied with anyone yet.

Meanwhile, people were conspiring to get me voted out. If it was so wrong for me to get Dyne out, how was it just fine to vote me out... and have almost all of STARS plan it? You're just angry because he was in YOUR alliance and I wasn't. You don't honestly think I was conniving.



Aahm, one more point:
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...During this time, GameMaster and I formed a fake alliance with Rndm. And I must credit GameMaster, because his manipulative acting abilities were brilliant. I will let him tell this part of the story.
Your timing is off. I allied with GM long before I reached out to Vampyr. I had a plan to get GM to the final two since before I was sent to Umbrella. What you're talking about is after Stu got voted out, after the merger, when I knew my head was on the chopping block.


This is how the alliances were written up at the time:
1) GM, Vampyr, Dylflon, Canyarion, Gimpy
2) Happy, Rndm
Side People: Yoda, Germanator

You were five to four. You also had the potential to get Germanator, which you did. I didn't want Germanator to have to vote against STARS people. I didn't know Germanator, and I assumed he was loyal to STARS, so I didn't try it.

Ok, because you were five to a potential four, you had no need to form a fake alliance with me. GM was already faking ignorant, so I thought there were no alliances. I was suspicious of Vampyr, but I tried for him anyway, because Stu was voted out.

After I was betrayed, I learned of the full alliance because Vampyr couldn't hold onto his plans anymore (meanwhile, I was still keeping in the dark the fact that I was involved in Dyne's expulsion). I used the knowledge, and common sense (in what order people were invited to the alliance) to get the "tools" of the tribe to join my side. Everyone except for the main three (Dylflon, GM, and Vampyr) were contacted by me and told of the situation. Common sense took over, and they understood they had no chance against the main three, and agreed with me to break their alliance and then start the game over with new strategies.

Fast forward... It's Canyarion, Yoda, and I against the main three and Germanator as a sway vote. I realize Happydude was already voted out... but it was 4v4 that way already, and I had three votes on me. So losing Happy made the game no different than before. The problem was still the same, I needed to show Germanator that he had no chance against the main three.

I talk to Germanator for a couple of challenges about my offer to start the game over, but he's indecisive. When I figure there's no other way, I make a promise (one that I intended to hold to the end, like the others I made before to GM and Vampyr when we formed an alliance): I promised that I'd try ally Germanator to the end after the other alliance was broken. Apparently, it wasn't good enough of an offer. My simple promises couldn't match Vampyr's lies =¬Þ.

I realize that Germanator's not coming to my side... so I think of previous chats I had with GM and Vampyr. Vampyr informed me that it was only "50/50" that the "three" would be the final three. And that wasn't under the assumption that Germanator would get immunity, I imagine. So, I used that truth to inform GameMaster that there was a good chance that he wouldn't survive the game if he was in the final three with Vampyr and Dylflon.

I still think I'm right about that assumption. As Vampyr said in that post, he was more friends with Dylflon than GM. Dylflon even tried selling GM out in AGRS by telling everyone to vote for Vampyr... Eeh, oh well.

Anywho, it was a twisted game. Just realize, considering I wasn't in a "super party" BEFORE the game started, I wasn't meant to win. I did get damn far though.


P.S. While browsing AGRS, I saw two points of interest.
1) Dylflon only had one vote less than Happy and Canyarion in the AGRS voteout
2) Dyne voted for my Resident Evil movie and said: "It was the only one remotely funny".
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Re: The Survivor Story
Old 02-19-2004, 06:11 PM   #5
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Heh. Well, we felt you were a big threat. At first when Dyne was voted out we had suspicions that you had something to do with it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like how you were playing the game. You did a very good job of surviving. But we were worried that you'd become a big problem and target us soon. With vigilence and a little luck we got you out. But it came right down to the wire.
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Old 02-19-2004, 08:32 PM   #6
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Heh. Well, we felt you were a big threat. At first when Dyne was voted out we had suspicions that you had something to do with it. It wasn't so much that I didn't like how you were playing the game. You did a very good job of surviving. But we were worried that you'd become a big problem and target us soon. With vigilence and a little luck we got you out. But it came right down to the wire.
Dylflon speaks the truth. Rndm had the best survival rate of anyone. He survived like 3 tribal counsuls longer than it was "planned" for him to.

Anywho, I enjoyed reading you're reply, Rndm. I got to see how things were going while I was planning my own things.


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You're just angry because he was in YOUR alliance and I wasn't. You don't honestly think I was conniving.
Exactly.

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Common sense took over, and they understood they had no chance against the main three, and agreed with me to break their alliance and then start the game over with new strategies.
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My simple promises couldn't match Vampyr's lies =¬Þ.
That actually flattered me. lol.

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I still think I'm right about that assumption. As Vampyr said in that post, he was more friends with Dylflon than GM. Dylflon even tried selling GM out in AGRS by telling everyone to vote for Vampyr... Eeh, oh well.
Well, Dylflon and GM are equally best friends of mine. What I said in my post was that GM wasnt that good of a friend when survivor "started".

And dylflon wasnt selling GM out. According to GM and Dylflon, they got together and both of them decided they wanted me to win because I "played the game the best". While the nice comment flattered me, I could not have done anything I did without them. GM and Dylan were equally worthy of the title, if not more so. Just keep in mind no one was selling anyone out.

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Anywho, it was a twisted game. Just realize, considering I wasn't in a "super party" BEFORE the game started, I wasn't meant to win. I did get damn far though.
Yes, you did get damn far. It was a pleasure to play the game with you, you gave me the most competition than anyone. My brain was working overtime to counter your strategies. We'll have to do it again sometime.

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I just replied with "You're so cute! " or something like that.
yeah, that was really funny.
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Re: The Survivor Story
Old 02-19-2004, 08:55 PM   #7
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Wow looks like some of you took survivor way too seirously. I got second place last time, and I never gave it another thought.
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Old 02-19-2004, 06:38 PM   #8
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Interesting read. I'll be giving you some rep soon.
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