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02-11-2004, 06:21 PM
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Re: Big Info From Matt
Your arguement is relative. Regardless of it not selling as nearly as well as it should have, it still sold well.
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02-11-2004, 06:54 PM
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Re: Big Info From Matt
(I knew we would argue again one day  )
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Your arguement is relative. Regardless of it not selling as nearly as well as it should have, it still sold well.
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That depends on what you mean by selling well. I mean, if Michael Jackson sales one million CDs it's a huge dissapointment... but if I sell one million CDs out of my undergroungd label (which I don't have  ) it would be a huge success.
In other words, it may have 'sold well' to be a Game in general, but it didn't sell well to be a game that got such high marks.
I mean, to be the out-right best rated game this generation (cept for GTA  P), that is a big dissapointment.
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02-11-2004, 10:31 PM
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I dont think The game's arguement holds up. Saying a game didnt sell as well as it "should have" is kinda stupid in my mind. Whos to say how well a game should or shouldnt sell? I mean theres plenty of other very high rated games on any platform that just wont sell very well because the General Public dosent pay attention to ratings. And it works the other way too. A game like the Matrix shouldnt have sold near as well is it did. It was a crappy game. But because of that oh so popular matrix liscense, it sold through the roof. Besides that Nintendo's brand names just dont have quite the influence they used to. A million copies is still a helluva lot any way you look at it. Dont know why im arguing over this though. Anyone whos played it(and has any real taste at all in games) will know its a great game.
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02-12-2004, 12:36 AM
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I dont think The game's arguement holds up. Saying a game didnt sell as well as it "should have" is kinda stupid in my mind. Whos to say how well a game should or shouldnt sell? I mean theres plenty of other very high rated games on any platform that just wont sell very well because the General Public dosent pay attention to ratings.[/b]
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Metriod is the highest, not just high... plus it was being given away for free. Also, Metriod is a huge licence in the gaming industry.
Also, according to your logic I have no tastes in games because it took me giving Metriod 3 chances for that game to make me crack a smile. I rented it... PURCHASED it (free with GCN... and I completly dispised this game. I rented it again, got a little farter in (forced myself to, because I still hate the first section of the game) then I started to enjoy it.
I believe that anybody who liked Metriod forced themselves to platy further, and the game didn't automatically draw the person in. The only reason I gave metriod that many chances is because of the rating... if I didn't pay attention to ratings I would have blown that game off as crap very fast.
With that said, I don't think that it had dissapointing sales, I think it's just simply over-rated. I accept it as one of two things, a high rated game with disapointing sales, or a over rated game with good sales.
Oh, and on a side note, you can't use my logic in reverse with a game like Matrix. The sales don't set the bar for how good the game should be, the game sets the bar for how good the sales should be. It's a good thing for something to preform past it's expectations, it's a bad thing for great work (if you see it as that) to go un-noticed.
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02-12-2004, 01:27 AM
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The Nullified One
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Re: Big Info From Matt
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Metriod is the highest, not just high... plus it was being given away for free. Also, Metriod is a huge licence in the gaming industry.
Also, according to your logic I have no tastes in games because it took me giving Metriod 3 chances for that game to make me crack a smile. I rented it... PURCHASED it (free with GCN... and I completly dispised this game. I rented it again, got a little farter in (forced myself to, because I still hate the first section of the game) then I started to enjoy it.
I believe that anybody who liked Metriod forced themselves to platy further, and the game didn't automatically draw the person in. The only reason I gave metriod that many chances is because of the rating... if I didn't pay attention to ratings I would have blown that game off as crap very fast.
With that said, I don't think that it had dissapointing sales, I think it's just simply over-rated. I accept it as one of two things, a high rated game with disapointing sales, or a over rated game with good sales.
Oh, and on a side note, you can't use my logic in reverse with a game like Matrix. The sales don't set the bar for how good the game should be, the game sets the bar for how good the sales should be. It's a good thing for something to preform past it's expectations, it's a bad thing for great work (if you see it as that) to go un-noticed.
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*whispers to Game......psssst, when talking about taste, best not to mention a game like matrix
 on a side note, we're not getting into an argument with that game now, im just messin with ya.
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02-12-2004, 01:27 AM
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Mr. Mjolnir
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i had to force myself to play final fantasy 7 for two hours before enjoying it.... it is now my favorite game of all time. i like games like that, at first you dont like playing em cause they are different, but then later you realize that different is sooo much better than being the same as everything else.
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02-12-2004, 01:35 AM
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I had never played a metroid game prior to metroid prime, nor do I hold scores in high regard. The game instantly enthralled me. I just got stuck, and I try not to use guides, but I gave in.
Though, I think not having a Metroid game in years was a large result of less sales, not to mention Japan never really jumped on the metroid boat. Nintendo's games just dont sell as much as last gen. Zelda OOT sold 7+ million last gen, mario 64 sold 9+ million. Yet this gen, both have sold 2+ million (each, not combined).
The number of systems in comparison to N64 at an equal time in both console's life spans is still similar. The attach rate must be less, or they must be buying more 3rd party games (somewhat bitter-sweet)
in reply to RE4 exclusiveness, the deal ends after RE4 (at least if no new deal is made). Now, just cause the deal ends doesnt mean the exclusiveness ends. RE4 will likely be exclusive for a good amount of time, but I easily see a port in some form later on. Killer 7, however, is supposedly going to be ported to PS2 also (though probably best if you can stick with the cube versiob).
in reply to MP low sales, yes, it is unfortunate that such a highly rated game be overlooked, when most, if not all other games in the top 10 for Gamerankings have done well on their own without a bundle. Hopefully, MP2 does better.
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02-12-2004, 03:14 AM
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Mr. Mjolnir
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japanese just plain dont like first person games... halo or metroid
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