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[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

to me its not the best tho. But, what im saying is if thats whats its reconized as, so be it, but that really saddens me about console FPS's in general.

Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Well, we know as long as console FPSs use a controller you won't like them. But, the fact is there are many who do like the FPS genre on consoles even moreso than on PC.

too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc.

opinion in that regard is opinion.

Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.

And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.

But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway?

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

too true, And there are also people who like aol dial up more then broadband. Also people who like a huge fat woman instead of a model. etc. [/b]

Yep, and the AOL Fat girl lovers are the PC FPS lovers

Opinion is also pushed by loyalties, peers, fanboyism, etc. So many opinions are unjustified. nonetheless are still opinions.

Agreed... but my opinion isn't pushed by any of that as I explained

And btw. theres more too it then the control issue. (which your right, is probably the major issue) There are other things that make PC FPS's better.

Which is? All I can think of is online play.

[b]But now this is going away from a halo fight and into a PC vs Console fight.......... What was this topic about originally anyway?

Don't worry about that

[thatmariolover]

I don't think Halo was overhyped. Definately overrated (one word) now that it's out in my opinion, but not overhyped. It's a fun game to be sure. But I really got sick of it about 1/2 way through and really found it difficult to stick with it until the end (although i did finish it). The multiplayer is fun, but again, I can only play for a little while before I decide I'd rather be shoveling snow. But you know what? I really don't like FPS games in general, so I'm not going to continue.

Eternal Darkness found a special place in my heart. The game should have been way longer, and way more frightening than it ever was. But I still really enjoyed it. The story and the sanity effects were enough to keep me excited about the game until the end.

This whole RE4 possibility seems unlikely. I think that, yes, they did see a number of Capcom games. But they signed a blanket NDA (covering several or all of the games that they saw) so they can't comment on RE4 or the other games the played. I personally think that it's probably still another game. And if it is RE4, I'm going to be really disappointed. It seems like it's just going to be a Silent Hill ripoff with a crappy storyline (i.e. every other Resident Evil game storyline).

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OK. Now you guys can have your go...

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

Yep, and the AOL Fat girl lovers are the PC FPS lovers

lol, yea i saw that joke comeing almost as soon as i posted it. hehe.

now after yours i could just [insert a [your mama] joke here] and we'd all laugh and be done with that.

Which is? All I can think of is online play.

Wellllllllllll since you asked...
Control, major issue, the fact that you get more of it, make any key/button do anything you want.

more ability to change/customize your game, graphics/effects/scripts to do differnt things (non cheatwise) like on my FPS games i script little things to do things like put my own differnt crosshair for each weap, make scroll wheel cycle only weaps i use and skip over ones i dont. etc.

Game types, a whole ton more of em.

Addons / Mods, these things are endless and all free.

online as you mentioned many things come from that.

real map editors. not cheap ones like in consoles that cycle thro difernt preset things. i mean real ones, where you draw the 3d object, texture it in your own way, using a professional program.

not to mention PC ones are faster, smoother And dont need auto aim.

I could go on.

Problem me and you face when doing this argument tho Game, is that i dont play single player. I dont enjoy it, its far too easy for me to go and chase around a pre programed bot instead of a real thinking human.

i think you play more Single player because you enjoy the story more. no?

many of the FPS's i play dont come with a single player at all because they're purely online Multiplayer. So we're looking for 2 differnt things.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Null

i think you play more Single player because you enjoy the story more. no?

many of the FPS's i play dont come with a single player at all because they're purely online Multiplayer. So we're looking for 2 differnt things.

Well, I enjoy Single Player and Multi Player... How I would rank them:

#1: Co-op Story mode
#2: Multi Player
#3: Single Player Story Mode

I think Halo's Muli-Player was great... it's downfall was that it wasn't online (and didn't have any bots). I love a good 16 player game of CTF more than anything though.

I think they key difference between me and you is that I can't stand playing ANY Action games on a keyboard and mouse... I could probably stand an RPG, or games like Sim City, but any action oriented game I can't deal with on a keyboard and mouse

[Null]

Originally Posted by TheGame

I think they key difference between me and you is that I can't stand playing ANY Action games on a keyboard and mouse... I could probably stand an RPG, or games like Sim City, but any action oriented game I can't deal with on a keyboard and mouse

diffent types of games call for differnt types of setups. FPS's need keyboard/mouse. Thats much of the reason why console fps's are so much slower, they cant keep up with the pace of a PC setup. that and they impliment auto aim to make up for the lack of aiming ability.

i know the reason you cant stand it. its the same as most console players. its kinda like pitting the casual gamer vs the competitive one.

to each is own. i have no intention of making you like a differnt setup.