The Passion of Jesus Christ

Koopa · 02-02-2004, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackmane

In general nowadays, you can count on hearing the complaints on something more than the positive. I think the movie is going to be a good movie and, from what I hear, accurate to the Bible.

Of course the Jews are going to say its anti-semetic because they don't even believe Jesus to be what the Bible says he is. Anything having to do with the life of Jesus raises some arguement among some people because, in today's society, Jesus is one of the most controversial historical figures ever.

the fact that its about jesus has little to do with jewish reactions to the movie. does anyone btich about Jesus Christ, Superstar, the musical by andrew lloyd webber? not much, because hey, its not anti-semetic, it doesn't depict a satan-like character hangin out with the jews, and i don't think it has a jew smacking jesus in the face.

again, this movie is not according to the mainstream interpretation of the bible, just a fringe extremist group that ignores the decisions of the Vatican, and that mel gibson and his father subscribe to.

by the way, gibson's father has publicly denied that the holocaust occurred.

Canyarion · 02-02-2004, 10:00 AM

Who says that the Vatican has authority? I mean.... they're as hypocrite as I dunno what...

Professor S · 02-02-2004, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Koopa

the fact that its about jesus has little to do with jewish reactions to the movie. does anyone btich about Jesus Christ, Superstar, the musical by andrew lloyd webber? not much, because hey, its not anti-semetic, it doesn't depict a satan-like character hangin out with the jews, and i don't think it has a jew smacking jesus in the face.

again, this movie is not according to the mainstream interpretation of the bible, just a fringe extremist group that ignores the decisions of the Vatican, and that mel gibson and his father subscribe to.

by the way, gibson's father has publicly denied that the holocaust occurred.

Koopa, you've condemned this movie before even seeing it. All accounts by those that have SEEN it, say that it is not anti-semetic in the least. Lets see how it turns out before flipping out.

Koopa · 02-02-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

Koopa, you've condemned this movie before even seeing it. All accounts by those that have SEEN it, say that it is not anti-semetic in the least. Lets see how it turns out before flipping out.

false. as i said before, ADL representatives saw it and condemned it as being anti-semetic, saying its depictions of jews were,"painful to watch". In fact, most of the controversy comes from people who saw it. Seeing as its impossible for ME to see it, i'll base my conclusions on what others who HAVE seen it have said. If, when it comes out, more people say its fine, then i'll check it out and judge it for myself.

bottom line: based on Gibson's beliefs and the beliefs of his father, plus the information gathered by the ADL, and from what i have heard personally, i'm making the assumption that it is a biased, untrue, ultra extremist view of events that was abandoned by the Church years ago.

rottwylor · 02-02-2004, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Koopa

bottom line: based on Gibson's beliefs and the beliefs of his father, plus the information gathered by the ADL, and from what i have heard personally, i'm making the assumption that it is a biased, untrue, ultra extremist view of events that was abandoned by the Church years ago.

I agree... plus... MEL GIBSON??? C'mon... Mr.Lethal Weapon needs to pack it up and get out of the religious movie genre

Professor S · 02-03-2004, 10:17 AM

Oh, I'm sorry... every but the ADL said its not anti-semetic. My bad

rottwylor · 02-03-2004, 11:27 AM

This thread is making me want to see the movie less and less... which is pretty odd since I had no desired to see it in the first place. =\ Besides, don't you all know that movies are rarely (if ever) as good as the book?

Blackmane · 02-03-2004, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rottwylor

This thread is making me want to see the movie less and less... which is pretty odd since I had no desired to see it in the first place. =\ Besides, don't you all know that movies are rarely (if ever) as good as the book?

Yeah, what he said.

Read the Bible!!

Crash · 02-03-2004, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rottwylor

This thread is making me want to see the movie less and less... which is pretty odd since I had no desired to see it in the first place. =\ Besides, don't you all know that movies are rarely (if ever) as good as the book?

pffffff.... ha ha ha....that was funny

but forrest gump was was better as a movie than as a book....

Blackmane · 02-02-2004, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Koopa

the fact that its about jesus has little to do with jewish reactions to the movie. does anyone btich about Jesus Christ, Superstar, the musical by andrew lloyd webber? not much, because hey, its not anti-semetic, it doesn't depict a satan-like character hangin out with the jews, and i don't think it has a jew smacking jesus in the face.

again, this movie is not according to the mainstream interpretation of the bible, just a fringe extremist group that ignores the decisions of the Vatican, and that mel gibson and his father subscribe to.

by the way, gibson's father has publicly denied that the holocaust occurred.

You say that The Passion of the Christ doesn't depict what actually happens in the Bible, but I would have to say it is a lot closer to reality than something like Jesus Christ, Superstar with Jesus breaking into Broadway singing every 10 minutes. Face the reality, Jesus was very controversial and near the end of his life, he was not the most liked person around.

You say all these things in the movie symbolize anti-semetic attitudes from Mel Gibson, yet you have not seen the movie, and you have completely ignored sources that say the movie does not have anti-semetic messages. You are believing your bias sources without looking at the other side of the fence. I have to wait and see and make my own opinion as to whether it was overly negative towards Jews or not. I suggest you do the same.

BTW- as Canyarion said, The Vatican doesn't decide what is allowed in movies, so that point is meaningless. And going back to biblical accuracy, it was the Romans who arrested Jesus and put him to trial, but it was the Jews who condemned him to die on the cross. In fact, Pilate tried to get him off free, but the people chose a filthy murderer over Jesus.

rottwylor · 02-02-2004, 02:45 PM

gosh... if the bible wasn't a hoax, I'd actually care if this movie was accurately made or not.

=)

Professor S · 02-02-2004, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rottwylor

gosh... if the bible wasn't a hoax, I'd actually care if this movie was accurately made or not.

=)

You should have interest whether you believe in it or not. Christianity is a major force in the world, larger than the United States or any other nation. Understanding it better will help in understanding the world better.

rottwylor · 02-02-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Strangler

You should have interest whether you believe in it or not. Christianity is a major force in the world, larger than the United States or any other nation. Understanding it better will help in understanding the world better.

I think it's a statement true of any and all religions.

In regards to a hollywood film made by Mel Gibson....eh... I'll pass, lol