PS2 Not Being Taken Advantage Of

[Jonbo298]

Originally Posted by ominub

This better not be about how much you hate sony because if it is jon im going to be pissed at you!

How is this because I hate Sony? All it is, is news that is interesting. I never stated "I hate Sony so **** much because they aren't pushing every single company to produce the most extravagant looking games ever." All it is is just simple news that the PS2 can do better but some companies aren't trying.

Since I know I'm just gonna cause some MEANINGLESS AND POINTLESS opinions, this is my last reply in this thread since people can't seem to take to the fact that I'm not a MAJOR Sony hater or anything. I don't prefer the PS2 or Xbox, but it doesn't mean I'm a raging Nintendo fanboy.

Good day everyone

[Perfect Stu]

PS2 games still look beautiful in my eyes...GT4, Ratchet and Clank 2...even ICO is still one of the most STUNNING games I've ever seen.

If games in the next couple years start to look even better (which they probably will) I'm not one to complain.

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

How is this because I hate Sony? All it is, is news that is interesting. I never stated "I hate Sony so damn much because they aren't pushing every single company to produce the most extravagant looking games ever." All it is is just simple news that the PS2 can do better but some companies aren't trying.

Since I know I'm just gonna cause some MEANINGLESS AND POINTLESS opinions, this is my last reply in this thread since people can't seem to take to the fact that I'm not a MAJOR Sony hater or anything. I don't prefer the PS2 or Xbox, but it doesn't mean I'm a raging Nintendo fanboy.

Good day everyone

I COMPLETELY agree Jonbo. Just because you have something like this to say about Sony, people are all like "argh how dare you just accept it it's good!!!!!!!" Seen this many times b4.

[GiMpY-wAnNaBe]

...hater

[thatmariolover]

That site sounds like a bunch of fanboys that don't know much about specs. I mean, seriously, nearly every person that understands the way the PS2 works also understands that the vector units are key in utilizing power. This is not news.

In all honesty, Sony shouldn't have left it up to the developers to work harder. Sony should have made their system easier to develop for. I mean, you make it easy to develop for once. It's easy from then on. But Sony didn't, and now devs have to struggle with it with every single game engine they write. PS2 has great games, but it was poorly designed and there's no getting around it. The good developers are working through it and doing a good job. But you can't blame the others for giving lackluster graphics.

[bobcat]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

That site sounds like a bunch of fanboys that don't know much about specs. I mean, seriously, nearly every person that understands the way the PS2 works also understands that the vector units are key in utilizing power. This is not news.

In all honesty, Sony shouldn't have left it up to the developers to work harder. Sony should have made their system easier to develop for. I mean, you make it easy to develop for once. It's easy from then on. But Sony didn't, and now devs have to struggle with it with every single game engine they write. PS2 has great games, but it was poorly designed and there's no getting around it. The good developers are working through it and doing a good job. But you can't blame the others for giving lackluster graphics.

That's a very logical and good point.

[GT News]

Originally Posted by bobcat

That's a very logical and good point.

A logical and good point is a terrible thing to waste.

[Perfect Stu]

Lower-end companies can stick with PC games...overcoming challenge (PS2 architecture) reaps reward (insanely large userbase, potential million game seller). The PS2 is a unique architecture...it's a different technology. I'm not saying "tougher to develop for = good", I'm just saying Sony invested a lot of money into this type of tech, they wanted something different/ambitious, and I dont think anyone can really argue that it's been a bad thing.

PS2 was released to the public in March 2000...a full year and a half before GC/XBX...and it's still pumping out quality, good-looking games that are comparable to similar GC/XBX offerings. If they'd used Microsoft's exact tech, only a year and a half older, I'm betting we'd see a huge (worse)difference in PS2 graphics compared to XBox's

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

PS2 was released to the public in March 2000...a full year and a half before GC/XBX...and it's still pumping out quality, good-looking games that are comparable to similar GC/XBX offerings. If they'd used Microsoft's exact tech, only a year and a half older, I'm betting we'd see a huge (worse)difference in PS2 graphics compared to XBox's

Indeed, it's true that a system developed the way Xbox or GC were, using the technology available at the time the PS2 launched, would have looked very lackluster. However, I do think that Sony was a little over anxious to get the pig to the market. They had a big head start and they could have waited a bit in order to make their technology more accessable. Yes, I think they should have stuck with the Vector Processing Units, as that was the only way to utilize the futuristic abilities at the time. But they could have made it more developer friendly to tap them. It would have taken a few more months of development time and would have been great.

At this point, I've heard that the dev tools have been improving significantly. But if people are still having trouble they need to do even more. PS2 is a great system, and it's not like it's hurting (obviously); but why not take a great thing and make it even better?